Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #413

[richard B]

And now the # 413

Difficult ? Really I don't know .

As you can see ,this time it is not of the 1913/14 years I usually like .

Good luck in your research ,blow the dust away from your bookcases

Greetings

Richard

So our scoreboard after challenge #412 is:

77.9 Varese2002 ☼
56.9 Dave_Kent ☼
40.0 Rbailey ☼
15.5 YavorD
13.3 Rod Filan
13.0 Froggy
9.8 Cruze
9.7 Aquilius
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
7.1 Breguet
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
4.0 GregE
3.8 richard B
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

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[GregE]

Hi Richard,

A long shot but could it be the Aeromarine model ML primary trainer (USA)?


. . . whoops no, found an image and it doesn't match but it did resemble one of the "central float seaplanes" shown in Janes.

Cheers
Greg

[richard B]

Sorry Greg

Cheers
Richard

[Rbailey]

For lack of a better suggestion, I'll toss in the Thomas Morse MB2.

[richard B]

Sorry , Rbailey ,you have to try again

[Froggy]

Bonjour

I think that it could be a Sturtevant S-3

Juste une supposition!

Cordialement
Bruno

[Rbailey]

Bruno - you may be right but the S-3 had a short diagonal strut at the wing root that should be visible from that angle, as well as an upper wing radiator. The S-4 might be a better possbility, only because I don't have a picture of the land version; I suspect the same characteristics apply. This machine has a very cleanly cowled engine exhusting on both sides, which suggests a V engine. The Borell Boccaccio 3000 comes to mind, but the cowling is different and where is the radiator? I think we are still looking.

[Froggy]

Hello Rbailey

I think you are right for the S-3!(I have only a photo 3/4 side)
There are 2 different photos for the S-4 on aerofiles-The radiators on both sides don't fit I think
I had same idea about Borel but the cowling dont fit as you say
I think I 'll search among french planes-Sait-on jamais ?

a+
Cordialement
Bruno

[richard B]

Sorry nothing near the clue,you are freezer-cold (ladies and) gentlemen
let try again & again .

[Dave_Kent]

How about the Borel-Boccaccio Type 3000 (C 2) ?

Dave