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Old 25 June 2008, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguets Aircraft ID Challenge #426

Here is : Breguets Aircraft ID Challenge #426

Have a good time looking for it.

Laurent



The Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #425 is:

80.5 Varese2002 ¤
57.9 Dave_Kent ¤
41.0 Rbailey ¤
15.5 YavorD
13.5 Froggy
13.3 Rod Filan
11.75 Cruze
10.7 Aquilius
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.8 richard B
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.25 GregE
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.2 GregE
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

Previous challenges: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The rules :

The thread title must be "Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 26 June 2008, 05:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This looks an awful lot like an Anatra D with a liquid-cooled inline engine. I don't know a specific designation for an Anatra D variant with an inline engine, and I don't know the engine.
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Old 26 June 2008, 07:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I´m missing the lovely shape of the Anatra wings here...

And I found the only inline engine they used was a Hispano-Suiza V-engine.
This one looks more like a german single-row engine.

It has more similarities with the Gotha B.I but I believe it is rather a LVG product as the engine is hidden deeper in the fuselage.
Maybe a LVG C.I we haven´t had in the challenge yet.


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Old 26 June 2008, 08:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Bonjour ŕ tous

I keepon russian direction with a LEBED XII

cordialement
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Old 26 June 2008, 09:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Cruze, for an observer among the top scoring aces, you are not a man of many words!


Since I don´t know where I am, I have to give it another shot.
Lacking many references I think tbstreet and Bruno might be not that far away, searching in the eastern spheares...

Lebed "repaired" some german reconnaissaters and developed own types of it.
The Lebed XII is flown with Salmson engines only, as far as I know.

But the designation "XI" or Type A1 was assigned to some (I think most captured) aircraft that got/had Mercedes, Benz and Maybach egines from 100 to 160 hp. I can´t tell which powerplant is used here.

Is it one of the Lebed XI (Type A1)?


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Old 26 June 2008, 09:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hello

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Cruze, for an observer among the top scoring aces, you are not a man of many words!
I guess it's time for me to wake up

Well for the moment nobody is looking in the right direction... It's not a russian plane... nor a Gotha or LVG...

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Old 26 June 2008, 10:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, then, it has an "Austro-Hungarian nose," like those Albatri with no spinners... Would we recognize it with a slimmer engine and a spinnered prop?
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Old 26 June 2008, 10:50 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is a Japanese high speed tractor biplane of 1917. It was designed and manufactured by the PMBRA [Provisional Military Balloon Research Association - Rinji Gunyo Kikyu Kenkyu Kai) and called the Seishiki-2.

Power was a 100-110 hpDaimler six cylinder engine.

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Old 26 June 2008, 01:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Congratulations Kees, one more point for you !

It's the Seishiki-2 Aeroplane.
Designed in 1917, it made its first flight on 11 january 1918 but crashed when making the second flight on 17 january, killing Lt Sakamoto the pilot.
Only one was built.

Span : 9,86m
Length : 6,70m
Height : 2,60m

Next challenge for Kees.

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The Scoreboard at the end of Challenge #426 is:

81.5 Varese2002 ¤
57.9 Dave_Kent ¤
41.0 Rbailey ¤
15.5 YavorD
13.5 Froggy
13.3 Rod Filan
11.75 Cruze
10.7 Aquilius
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.6 Flamingo
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 EdStevens
6.3 Patrick
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.8 richard B
5.7 Ampovandak
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.25 GregE
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.2 GregE
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 austin08
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 sobrien
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul

Previous challenges: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The rules :

The thread title must be "Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 27 June 2008, 07:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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... the eastern spheres


I looked through the pics of Nakajima and Yokosuka I have, but I´ve nothing about Seishiki designs.

Cruze do you have a photograph of the Seishiki 1?
I only know that it came to an end by a crash with a Farman.


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