Aeroplane ID -2

[richard B]

The picture :

[Froggy]

I think that it 's a Lohner (early type)

May be a 1913 Lohner Etrich E-1 monoplane, used as training monoplane
in austro-hungarian aviation

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Cordialement
Bruno

[SCMc]

Hi Bruno,

It looks very close. The landing gear, cockpit, and the strusts above the fuselage look similar, but the E-1 in the photo appears to have an inline engine, while this one appears to have a rotary (or radial). Were there variations of the Lohner Etrich E-1?

Steve

[Cigogne]

yes, there were variations utilizing different powerplants.

Aaron

[richard B]

thank you all for the pointing !!!

You are right :
It's the "Lohner-Etrich Gnôme Eindecker 10.15 "- military,delivered 29/12/1913
( info in Keimel's Luftfahrtzeugbau in Österreich )
How was it at Breme ,I can't say !
Thanks a lot
Richard

[Rod_Filan]

Originally Posted by richard B

How was it at Breme ,I can't say !

I think those are the names of the aviators in the photo.

Grust und Bremen.

Cheers
Rod

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by richard B

thank you all for the pointing !!!

You are right :
It's the "Lohner-Etrich Gnôme Eindecker 10.15 "- military,delivered 29/12/1913
( info in Keimel's Luftfahrtzeugbau in Österreich )
How was it at Breme ,I can't say !
Thanks a lot
Richard

Information given by Grosz-Haddow-Schiemer on the Lohner 10.15 differs slightly. It was known as the Schichtpreis Eindecker Type 1914 (AD 489), effectively the last machine built by Lohner with wing warping Taube wings. Completed on December 29, 1913. It was offered to the Luftschifferabteilung (LA) in February 1914, the offer was declined by the LA.
The machine was entered in the Schicht Flug but not flown for some reason. The machine was impressed at the start of the war and designated Gnome-Etrich or Lohner A 23. In April 1915 it got the designation Lohner 10.15. The machine survived till at least November 1917, being used as a trainer.

So the picture can be dated as being taken between April 1915 and (at least) November 1917.

The names of Grust and Bremen (probably the men on the picture) does not appear in the list of Österreichische Flugzeugführer till 1920, so they were not Austro-hungarian breveted pilots. Most likely the two men were technicians.

Cheers

Kees