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24 October 2008, 07:02 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
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'14-'18aviationcollector, unfortunatelly you are missed.
And now I am little confused - not about identification of the plane but... let you all guess why
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24 October 2008, 08:15 AM
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The wheels seem a little modern for a 14/18 crash ,at least for my old eyes . 
I think I have already seen it somewhere  :A school machine ,maybe Sopwith ?
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24 October 2008, 08:38 AM
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Bonsoir tout le monde
By reading my Jane' fighting aircraft, I think that it could be
A boulton & Paul "Bourges", a twin engine bomber fitted with ABC dragonfly
300 hp-The wheel carriage and airscrew fit perfectly with your photo
Cordialement
Bruno
Boulton-Paul P.7 Bourges - light bomber
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24 October 2008, 09:08 AM
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Bonsoir à tous
I saw it this morning in Jane's 1919 ,BUT the engines are between the wings ,not ON the lower wing as on the picture
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24 October 2008, 09:23 AM
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Your are perfectly right Richard
So second proposition
boulton & Paul "Bourges P7 a MK.1a
I have a photo,of this airplane and the engines are fixed on lower wing
Bruno
Last edited by Froggy; 24 October 2008 at 09:30 AM.
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24 October 2008, 09:32 AM
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I think Bruno has the right plane, but the official designation was Mk 1B (according to J. M.Bruce).
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24 October 2008, 09:45 AM
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Hello Rbailey
You are probably right
It would be kind from your part if you could give me the reference of JM Bruce's book which you mention- I have no documentation about UK ww1 airplanes
Thanks in advance
Cordialement
Bruno
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24 October 2008, 09:48 AM
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Yes, Bruno! This is second prototype of Boulton Paul P.7 Burges, crashed in the beginning of 1919. And now I am in doubt - because Breguet named this craft and then declined - this is the first prototype was with engines mounted off the wing. And there is Flamingo with correctly defined engines. So, Breguet, how we will distribute points?
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24 October 2008, 10:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Froggy
Hello Rbailey
You are probably right
It would be kind from your part if you could give me the reference of JM Bruce's book which you mention- I have no documentation about UK ww1 airplanes
Thanks in advance
Cordialement
Bruno
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Bruno - the Bruce book is 'British Aeroplanes 1914-1918'
by J M Bruce. Published by Putnam & Co Ltd, 1957
Maybe a bit outdated in spots now, but set the standard and worth getting if you can find one.
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24 October 2008, 12:13 PM
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Thanks R bailey
I placed just an order now for a second-hand book
it is rather expensive (but 742 pages!) and I take advantage still as long as it's time of the favorable rate exchange between the $ and The €
Cordialement
Bruno
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