Breguet's Crash Files #319

matte_kudasai · 23 October 2008, 10:41 PM

Scoreboard At the end of #318b

34.3 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ the Ace of Aces ¤
31.7 Froggy ¤
28.6 Rbailey ¤
21.00 Breguet
17.15 YavorD
16.5 Flamingo
12.60 Richard B
09.75 Aquilius
08.7 Varese2002
08.25 AROTH
08.0 ONEALM
07.9 Gregvan
8.1 Rod_Filan
05.75 Ross
05.7 Jeroplan
05.5 Expositor
05.5 Gilles
05.0 Dan_San
05.0 Kilian
05.0 matte_kudasai
04.8 '14-'18aviationcollector
04.0 Edmond
04.0 Eric
04.0 Laserlloyd
03.5 sergio_vitalio
03.3 PaulForster
03.2 Colin A Owers
03.2 Crankcase
03.0 Crimso
03.0 Patrick
02.7 Tbstreet
02.0 Cruze
02.0 Rickenbaron
01.8 gregorydquist
01.8 Tom L
01.5 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.0 Albatros_Ace
01.0 Ampovandak
01.0 Berman
01.0 brisfitworks
01.0 Cliff
01.0 Pvernon
01.0 rammjaeger
01.0 Rexee
01.0 RONNY BAR
01.0 Troy Raines
00.5 Miroslav Pokorny
00.1 SCMc

The rules :
1) All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2) All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner!
3) To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
4) And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
5)If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
6) The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet.

Breguet's Crash Files

FOKKERJ · 24 October 2008, 12:00 AM

Hello Matte Kudasai,

Welcome to the "ACE CLUB"!

Remember your new duties as an ACE (one must wait 3.0 hours before venturing a guess!).

Now if we can only award the much needed 0.2 point to '14-'18aviationcollector!

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger

P.S. Good Luck....David.

Flamingo · 24 October 2008, 01:47 AM

Avro 533 Manchester MkI with ABC Dragonfly radial engines 320 hp. It's the cowling that seems to fit.

matte_kudasai · 24 October 2008, 02:25 AM

Engines is defined right.
Give me more planes!

Aquilius · 24 October 2008, 03:09 AM

Airco DH.11 "Oxford"

... the engines are placed right upon the lower wings, landing gear looks similar and if I can trust my eyes, the fuselage fills the gap between both wings completely!

Have a look at: Airco D.H.11

cheers

Aquilius

matte_kudasai · 24 October 2008, 04:08 AM

Still need more planes

Breguet · 24 October 2008, 04:54 AM

Given the engines how about the Boulton & Paul Bourges. Failing that I have one more to throw in.

Breguet · 24 October 2008, 05:01 AM

No, the Boulton & Paul P7 Bourges had engines mounted off the wing. So how about the Nieuport London. Oh bugger - I finally find a picture of it and it's a Triplane!

BTW I hope this is safely in the time period. A lot of these ABC engined designs didn't fly till the 20's. (see rule 1)

Aquilius · 24 October 2008, 05:50 AM

Hmmm, I can´t find a better match than Aircos DH.11. Just it´s impossible.
(first flown in early 1919, it never crashed and was dismanteled next year...

)

Could it be a re-engined protoype of an unsuccesful bomber-developement from 1918?
Or is it something built at Martlesham Heath I´m usually less informed about?

...still looking

Cheers

Aquilius

'14-'18aviationcollector · 24 October 2008, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

Hello Matte Kudasai,

Welcome to the "ACE CLUB"!

Remember your new duties as an ACE (one must wait 3.0 hours before venturing a guess!).

Now if we can only award the much needed 0.2 point to '14-'18aviationcollector!

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger

P.S. Good Luck....David.

Yes welcome to the club Matte! I have spent some time tonight searching for an answer to this crashfile. It looks so familiar, but I can't identify it so far. I am sure I have seen those twin Dragonflies and what appears to be a monocoque or semi monocoque fuselage somewhere. It looks a bit like a B.A.T. design, but I am not aware of any twin engined designs produced by B.A.T. It also looks a bit like the Tarrant Tabor, but this aeroplane is nowhere near the size of a Tarrant Tabor (not very many aeroplanes are for that matter!) ..... excellent photo Matte, that is a real brain teaser!

I think the 0.2 of a point is safe, at least for the moment!