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Old 9 November 2008, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question What history of this Albatros D.V?

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Old 9 November 2008, 05:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi,

The photos show Albatros D.Va D.7241/17, which was fatally crashed on 4 June 1918 by Ltn. Emmerich Honig of Jasta 14. You can just see the black/white horizontal band on the fuselage, intersected by the personal star emblem and the Balkenkreuz.

I note that the poster says he has other photo negatives from the same source showing Jasta 14 Triplanes and the funeral of Honig. The belief that Honig died in the crash of Fokker Dr.I 475/17 comes from a photo caption in Alex Imrie's magnificent book The Fokker Triplane. Alex published a photo of the crashed Dr.I 475/17, and speculated that it was probably the crash of Honig. The available records stated that Honig died in a crash (aircraft type unspecified) on 4 June 1918 on Phalempin aerodrome - and Alex made a resonable assumption. However, the eminent German historian Reinhard Zankl has provided me with the same photos of Albatros D.Va 7241/17 from the album of a Jasta 14 enlisted man - and the photos are clearly labeled as "Bruch Ltn. Honig" on 4.6.18. So the D.Va 7241/17 was Ltn. Honig's fatal crash on 4 June 1918.

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Old 10 November 2008, 03:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 10 November 2008, 04:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thank's for the answer Greg,

like i said on the great war forum, the glass negatives, consist of a total of 16 plates, that are stored in a carton box with the name of the company that took or made the glass negatives.

Many of them show's fokker DR.I triplane's, theire pilot's and mechanic's.
Also a bomber, type i don't know about, and Pfalz D.VIII fighter's.

then, the funeral of Emmerich Honig, his coffin, flanked by four guard's with behind it a Fokker triplane, and his final grave, with six people aside.

Other material consist of the funeral colone, a colone of vehicles, with horses on the back of theire truck's, a damage Fokker triplane, the albatros D.V crash, and a overall view of the airfield.

This is the photo of the grave of Emmerich Honig

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Old 10 November 2008, 05:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Pegasus39,

Greetings, and welcome to the Forum! Thanks so much for posting that great photo of Honig's grave marker. I had not seen that before.

If you would care to post some of the photos of Fokker Triplanes, I'm sure you would get lots of forumite fans around here! Also, we could certainly identify that German bomber. Photos of Pfalz D.VIII fighters are also very rare and precious.

Congratulations on a real treasure of negatives!

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Old 10 November 2008, 06:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Dr 1 475/17

DR 1 475/17-what crash was it involved in?
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Old 10 November 2008, 09:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,

@ Greg: So it could be said, that this pic's show the plane where Lt. Honig died in, and it was enlisted with jasta 14.
Are there any pic's that show's the particulair airplane and his pilot in normal condition.

@ PFFF : photo of the DR.I show's the aircraft inverted on the ground, very heavy damaged.i'm sure the pilot didn't survived this particulair crash, but the cause is also unknow to me.
For a time i believed this was the airplane where Lt. Honig died in.

On request for Greg, here are some pic's taken from my collection of glass negatives.

First the bomber, type and unit unknow for me.

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here are pic's from the Fokker DR.I in Jasta 14 markings
Anybody who can name pilot's please feel free to tell.

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next......the Pfalz.
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Old 10 November 2008, 09:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Like i promised, the Pfalz D.VIII, very rare seen, and almost unknow for many.
here you see it in Jasta 14 markings.
A very intresting feature are the two propellors that are bolted on each other.

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I hope you guy's enjoy this pic's

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This is a very nice surprise. One reads of Jasta 14 triplanes soldiering on into September 1918... nice to see they also had Pfalz D.VIIIs. I was unaware of this. A great start to a Monday seeing these!

The bomber is a Friedrichshafen G.III.
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Old 10 November 2008, 12:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Enjoyed seeing your collection very much Danny!

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