Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #494

[cruze]

Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #494

Hello

Here is the new challenge.
I think it's an easy one with the opportunity for a non ace to have a point...
So at your and hurry up, after 12 hours the forum aces will be here...



Cheers

Laurent


The scoreboard at the end of #493 is

93.0 Varese2002
61.5 Dave_Kent ¤
51.9 Rbailey ¤
21.3 Cruze
17.5 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
14.3 Aquilius
13.3 Rod Filan
9.8 richard B
9.6 Flamingo
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.7 EdStevens
7.7 matte_kudasai
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.3 Patrick
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 Ampovandak
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.45 GregE
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 AROTH
2.0 sobrien
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 Albatros_Ace
1.0 airplane176
1.0 austin08
1.0 Brad
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 Rexee
1.0 SL DIII
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 Nieuport14
0.3 Miroslav Pokorny
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul_J._Fisher


Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge Records: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 - Breguet's Aircraft Challenge --

The rules :

•The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
•The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Rbailey]

Renault- engined Coutant RMC 17 flying boat . The tail assembly is distinctive.

[Varese2002]

Although I am too late - the 12 hour wait ended in the middle of the night here - I would offer my recognition of this beautiful picture of this rarity.

This is the Coutant Flying boat built by the French 1917 Coutant firm. This Hydravion biplace de patrouille was built in small numbers.

Distinguishing features are:

• The massive engine installation,a Renault 280 hp, driving a pusher screw

• Large exhaust pipe above the upper wing

• Big square radiator in front of the engine, fitted just underneath the upper wing

• Extra struts from the front of the fuselage to the engine

• Upper wing larger than the lower wing

• Very large ailerons at the upper wing

• 3-bay wing with V-struts at the end of the wing

• Typical round rudder, mounted high to keep clear of the water

I think Laurent had his day cleaning (photoshopping ) the rudder, nothing to be seen here, no numbers, no name
,no nothing.

Cheers

Kees

By the way, looking at the answer of Ron I have never seen the designation RMC 17 till now.

[cruze]

Hello

Rbailey, you have the point it's the Coutant RMC type 17 designed by René Coutant and built in 1917 by the Société de constructions navales du Léman (Thonon-les-Bains - France).
Twenty were used by the french Aviation maritime mainly at Fréjus Saint-Raphaël and La Palice.

Originally Posted by Varese2002

I think Laurent had his day cleaning (photoshopping ) the rudder, nothing to be seen here, no numbers, no name, no nothing.

By the way, looking at the answer of Ron I have never seen the designation RMC 17 till now.

The name of the plane was on the rudder : RMC type 17 and I had to clean it

Next challenge for Rbailey.

Cheers

Laurent


The scoreboard at the end of #493 is

93.0 Varese2002
61.5 Dave_Kent ¤
52.9 Rbailey ¤
21.3 Cruze
17.5 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
14.3 Aquilius
13.3 Rod Filan
9.8 richard B
9.6 Flamingo
8.1 Breguet
7.7 Dan-San
7.7 EdStevens
7.7 matte_kudasai
7.6 trp81
7.4 JohnMacG
7.3 Patrick
7.1 Colin A. Owers
6.7 Ampovandak
6.1 joegertler
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
5.45 GregE
5.3 Crimso
5.3 Der Grüne Flieger
5.2 Doc
5.2 Gilles
5.1 bshatzer
5.0 Tom L
4.7 dpolglaze
4.4 Ross Moorhouse
4.3 edmondthieffry
4.0 greenknight
3.7 Berman
2.5 Gregoire
2.1 Crankcase
2.0 AROTH
2.0 sobrien
2.0 Rickenbaron
1.7 Kilian
1.6 sergio_vitalio
1.3 Cigogne
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1.0 Albatros_Ace
1.0 airplane176
1.0 austin08
1.0 Brad
1.0 Cliff
1.0 cubsfan4life
1.0 gregorydquist
1.0 Luf-Rick
1.0 Mike Westorp
1.0 paolomiana
1.0 Peter Zambori
1.0 rammjaeger
1.0 Rexee
1.0 SL DIII
0.8 Machinbird
0.8 tbstreet
0.8 toxisch
0.6 Sreiko
0.5 Martin Irvine
0.4 Vilkata
0.3 Nieuport14
0.3 Miroslav Pokorny
0.3 albapfalzd3
0.2 Paul_J._Fisher


Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge Records: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 - Breguet's Aircraft Challenge --

The rules :

•The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
•The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Rbailey]

Some specifications for this 2-place (tandem cockpits) patrol boat are:

span 18.2 M
length 11.06 M
ht 3.50 M
max speed 140 km/hr
endurance 3 hr
armed with 1 machine gun and could carry up to 300 kg bombs.

Although performance was adequate, its competitors were better and only 2 or 3 of the 20 built were actually used.