Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #501

[cruze]

Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #501

Hello

On our way to the #1000 .... and Kees 100,00 score

The new challenge :



Cheers

Laurent


The scoreboard at the end of #500:

94.00 Varese2002**
63.40 Dave_Kent **
52.90 Rbailey **
30.30 Cruze**
17.50 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
14.30 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
10.90 richard B
10.60 Flamingo
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.70 matte_kudasai
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Doc
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L 12hours waiting
04.70 dpolglaze No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 AROTH
02.00 sobrien
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 airplane176
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 Nieuport14
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 albapfalzd3
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

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The rules :

•The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
•The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Breguet]

I didn't know till now that more than one aircraft had this, not so unique as I thought, feature.

[Rbailey]

Spanish Delta Experimental biplane – called el Conejo because of its most obvious characteristic above the top wing, which was an experimental lateral stability device.

Front view also works.

[Rbailey]

Damn - too soon. A similar picture of the "Delta" is in Jane's, by the way.

[Breguet]

Damn - too soon

C'est la Guerre.

If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.

[cruze]

Hello

It was the Barrón Delta also named Conejo (rabbit).

Originally Posted by Rbailey

Damn - too soon

As Breguet said : C'est la guerre !

Next challenge is for you Rbailey

Laurent


The scoreboard at the end of #501:

94.00 Varese2002**
63.40 Dave_Kent **
52.90 Rbailey **
30.30 Cruze**
17.50 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
14.30 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
10.90 richard B
10.60 Flamingo
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.70 matte_kudasai
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Doc
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L 12hours waiting
04.70 dpolglaze No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 AROTH
02.00 sobrien
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 airplane176
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 Nieuport14
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 albapfalzd3
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous: : Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 * Breguet's Aircraft Challenge

The rules :

•The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
•The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Varese2002]

In Jane's Fighting aircraft of world war 1 (foreword by John W.R. Taylor) on p.220 the caption gives

A Spanish military experimental biplane, known as the "Delta" type, combining some Nieuport characteristics with German wing arrangement and curious fins above, which are designed for experiments in lateral stability.

I do not see any Nieuport characteristics in it Perhaps the writer of the caption further thought that such a very 'strutty' wing construction must be very sturdy and then of course German

Is there anything known about the lateral stability experiments? Probably there were also (Spanish) patents issued for this idea.

Cheers

Kees