Brequet's Aircraft ID Challenge # 502

[Froggy]

Originally Posted by Rbailey

I have. I think I know what you are referring to, but this is not that one.
Also, it is not an Ansaldo.

Bonsoir à tous
not That one OK ,but very close to it.....
Cordialement
Bruno

[matte_kudasai]

The squared engine cowl is reminded me a Mann Egerton Type H.
Here is challenge photo, and the photo of challenge #098
As that challenge was SECOND prototype, so I think now it's FIRST prototype (Wikipedia says that there was only two aircrafts of this type). Difference is in rudder shape and something in chassis, I can't see it...

[Varese2002]

Undoubtedly this is the Mann Egerton H.1. Although the serial N.44 was carefully removed from this picture, this machine can be easily recognized by its central float direct under the fuselage and the two wing floats directly mounted in the wing.

The Mann Egerton H.1 was a single-seat fighter designed for shipboard use.

Cheers

Kees

[matte_kudasai]

Oh, it's not the wing, it's float! Now I see the differences, thanks, Kees!

[Froggy]

Originally Posted by matte_kudasai

The squared engine cowl is reminded me a Mann Egerton Type H.
Here is challenge photo, and the photo of challenge #098
As that challenge was SECOND prototype, so I think now it's FIRST prototype (Wikipedia says that there was only two aircrafts of this type). Difference is in rudder shape and something in chassis, I can't see it...

The object of challenge 098 was Agerton Type H2 and not H1 object of this challenge
The two photos are in the Bruce 's Book

Cordialement
Bruno

[matte_kudasai]

Originally Posted by Froggy

The object of challenge 098 was Agerton Type H2 and not H1 object of this challenge

It's just words playing, I think, Type H1/H2 or Type H first/H second - call it as you wish

[Rbailey]

The Mann Egerton H1 and H2 had the same basic airframe, but the H1 was clearly distinguishable by the external flotation gear that Kees noted. The H2 had its flotation gear internal. They also differed in rudder and other details. As the two machines were normally referred to with the separate H1 and H2 designations, I think they pass as separate challenges. Matte_kudasai clearly got the identification and the next challenge, but I will give Kees some credit for the exact designations and pointing out the major identifying feature.

The scoreboard at the end of #502:

94.20 Varese2002**
63.40 Dave_Kent **
52.90 Rbailey **
30.30 Cruze**
17.50 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
14.30 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
10.90 richard B
10.60 Flamingo
08.50 matte_kudasai
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Doc
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L 12hours waiting
04.70 dpolglaze No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 AROTH
02.00 sobrien
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 airplane176
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 Nieuport14
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 albapfalzd3
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

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