Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge # 506

[Rbailey]

Sorry that this is such a small picture, but it is the best I could find. It may take some hunting, but it is well within the time-frame of the challenge.

So the scoreboard after 505 is:

94.20 Varese2002 ☼
64.40 Dave_Kent ☼
53.90 Rbailey ☼
30.30 Cruze ☼
17.50 YavorD
16.65 Froggy
15.30 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
10.90 richard B
10.60 Flamingo
08.50 matte_kudasai
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Doc
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L 12hours waiting
04.70 dpolglaze No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 AROTH
02.00 sobrien
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd3
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Previous challenges: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918 - Breguet's Aircraft Challenge --

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•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
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•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
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•The final arbitor in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

[Dave_Kent]

No takers not even Kees, that’s a bad sign. I’ll throw out a guess, just for starters, though given Rbailey’s passion for the very obscure from very odd places, I think I am probably too ordinary.

I will go with the Oertz Taube, whether the 1913 or 1914 I certainly can’t tell.

Dave

[YavorD]

Hi Dave!
Wing trailing edge is too stright for a 'Taube'. It looks as a conventional braced monoplane without any other kind of wing supporting structure.
Regards,
Yavor

[richard B]

It's something like a Blériot XI/Morane mixt

Could be a Castaibert 913 or 914 . from Argentina .

[Rbailey]

I already posted a Castaibert. He did have more than one model, but this isn't one of them. And Yavor is right; no Taube.

[Aquilius]

Hmmm, I haven´t found anything that matches with this design in the tail, landing gear and tombstone all in one.

Since you left us with nothing than this apparently small picture(I´m not able to detect if there are skids fittetd), I´ll continue the "guessing-round".

Maybe Richard is right and we are back in South America.

How about the monoplane of J. d´Alvear?
It was a Blériot derive an built in 1914 it could have gotten a simplier undercarriage. Also a complete covering was usual this time.


Cheers

Aquilius

[Catfish]

Hello RBailey,
only an idea, photo is really small - but are you sure this plane really still flew in 1914 - seems to have a warp mechanism - Blackburn Monoplane Type D ? Seems this had a single post - or a type I from 1913 ?
Greetings,
Catfish

[Rbailey]

This plane flew extensively from 1916 until 1922. I can't remember without checking if it was built in 1915 or 16. The machine and its pilot would seem to have been fairly well known in its home country.

[Catfish]

Hi,
i must have checked almost a hundred websites, but nothing. Anyway i found a lot of good ones i did not know before, so

This strange long square rudder along with the diagonal elevators and tail, and warping wings, hmm..

Good luck !

Greetings,
Catfish

[Rbailey]

The picture I posted is on the web in a couple of places. Keep hunting.