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Old 23 December 2008, 02:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Crashfile Challenge # 363



Manufacturer, designer and type designation required for a full point. Bonus (up to one point) for pilots' name, date and aeroplane serial.
Good hunting!
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Scoreboard at the end of #362:

42.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger Ace of Aces
35.05 Froggy
29.60 Rbailey
27.90 Flamingo
23.40 Breguet
19.90 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
11.75 Aquilius
09.25 AROTH
08.70 Varese2002
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.00 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian ................................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond ..............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Laserlloyd
04.00 Patrick
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 gregorydquist
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
00.60 Catfish
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

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1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner!
Offenders will be dealt with severely!
3. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
4. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
5. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
6. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet.
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Old 23 December 2008, 05:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Greetings Yavor,

The wing reminds me of the early Junkers J.1 (E.I), but nothing else is even close.
A very nice challenging fotograf.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, FOKKERJ

P.S. Nice extra large foto! It's big enough to use as "wall paper"!
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Old 23 December 2008, 07:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Bonsoir tous

This plane let me think it could be an early Nieuport

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Old 23 December 2008, 07:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This plane let me think it could be an early Nieuport

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After seeing the tail that was my my impression also!
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Old 23 December 2008, 11:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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May be its a re-built Nieuport IV with wings equipped with ailerons with yoke control
Controls were transformed to conventional. , rudder was controlled by pedals.
Aircraft performed well, series production was planned. But the accidental death of pilot B.Z.Danovsky (May 31, 1916) ended those plans. The designer of this rebuilt Nieuport was Vladimir Victorovich Slusarenko

JOYEUX NOL

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Old 23 December 2008, 02:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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To all my most loyal Fliegeroffizier I offer the following in gratitude:
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Old 24 December 2008, 01:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Not a Nieuport.
Such aeroplanes flew reconnaissance sorties during 1914/1915.

Merry Christmas!

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Old 24 December 2008, 03:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I think we are looking at a crashed Sikorsky S 12 (or S 12bis) [Сикорский С 12]. A monoplane with somewhat Taube like ailerons and a rotary 80 hp Gnome.
The only thing against it are the pylons for the wing wiring in front or aft of the pilot cockpit. The S 12 is I have seen it had a bundle of 4 rods just before the pilot.
Some of the few built Sikorsky S 12 machines made it till 1922 well into the Soviet period (red stars on the wings).

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Old 24 December 2008, 09:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sikorski 12 ou Sikorski 7 ? That is the question ?
The main strut let me think it was a Sikorski 7 it

Sikorsky S-7 -

It is said that it crashed in a ploughed field ...like on photo

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Old 24 December 2008, 11:52 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Descriptions of Sikorsky S.11 fits better - S.7 had undivided elevator, and S.12 had one kingpost. S.11 had all this like on the photo, but shape of ailerons was another I think...
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