Breguet's Aircraft Challenge Nr. 529

[richard B]

For Lange :
C VI : updated C II
C VII : Well known (??) experimental ,I struts ,rotary engine .
C VIII :260hp Daimler D IVa,normal upperwing/fuselage struts .
C X : Certainly a licence

So ,all remains open ...

[richard B]

And for the first ed of Lange's book :

C I = alb C I
C II Walfisch
C III (proto 1916)
CL IV = Halberstadt CL IV
C V (proto 1917)
C VI updated CII
C VII no info
C VIII normal DD , ailerons on both wings
C IX no info
C X = Alb C X

[FOKKERJ]

I see no reason to drag this puppy around the parade grounds any longer!

Congratulations to Marek for a job well done!:goggles
A special thank you to Richard for providing backup.
Again Thanks to Kees for letting me come over and play with you guys again.

L.F.G. Roland C.VIII

Unless we learn something different.



The scoreboard is:

97.00 Varese2002 ☼
68.70 Dave_Kent ☼
57.20 Rbailey ☼
31.30 Cruze ☼
17.50 YavorD
17.15 Froggy
15.50 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
12.60 Flamingo
11.90 richard B
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.70 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L........................ 12hours waiting

04.70 dpolglaze.................... No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 AROTH
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 Lodzermensch
02.00 Rickenbaron
02.00 sobrien01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher



Previous Breguet's ID Challenges can be found here:

Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --[/QUOTE]

The rules :

•The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
•The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning and end of each thread so that we know where we are.
•The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
•The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
•Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
(always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
•If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
•Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
•To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
•The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
•If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
•The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.

Aquilius has been here....The scoreboard looks impeccable.

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by richard B

For Lange :
C VI : updated C II
C VII : Well known (??) experimental ,I struts ,rotary engine .
C VIII :260hp Daimler D IVa,normal upperwing/fuselage struts .
C X : Certainly a licence

So ,all remains open ...

Originally Posted by richard B

And for the first ed of Lange's book :

C I = alb C I
C II Walfisch
C III (proto 1916)
CL IV = Halberstadt CL IV
C V (proto 1917)
C VI updated CII
C VII no info
C VIII normal DD , ailerons on both wings
C IX no info FOKKERJ was here!
C X = Alb C X

Thanks again Richard for the information.
All joking aside, I really do appreciate your research.

Best Wishes, Jay

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

---- Again Thanks to Kees for letting me come over and play with you guys again. ----

Thanks to you FokkerJ for producing such a rare picture of this L.F.G. Roland C.VIII. Looking at the picture there is a great change it was taken at the factory premises at Berlin-Charlottenburg, evidenced by the other wingless L.F.G. Roland D-type fighter in the background.

Beware of pencil written identifications on the back of photographs, they may be placed decades later, be inaccurate or just not true.

I hope you will be able to win more points in this Breguet Challenge, so we see more rare pictures.

Cheers

Kees

[Aquilius]

Hi FokkerJ,

thanks for the marvellous picture.
It's great to see you again at the challenge!
It feels you haven't been here for years!

But what are you referring to with?

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

Aquilius has been here....The scoreboard looks impeccable.

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ

You surely wouldn't find me on a dawn patrol at 6:00 am on a sunday morning!


Cheers

Aquilius

[Varese2002]

Originally Posted by FOKKERJ

The scoreboard is:

97.00 Varese2002 ☼
68.70 Dave_Kent ☼
57.20 Rbailey ☼
31.30 Cruze ☼
17.50 YavorD
17.15 Froggy
15.50 Aquilius
13.30 Rod Filan
12.60 Flamingo
11.90 richard B
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.10 Breguet
07.70 Dan-San
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.40 JohnMacG
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.70 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L........................ 12hours waiting

04.70 dpolglaze.................... No waiting
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.00 greenknight
03.70 AROTH
03.70 Berman
02.50 Gregoire
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 Lodzermensch
02.00 Rickenbaron
02.00 sobrien01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Albatros_Ace
01.00 austin08
01.00 Brad
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

I noticed the score board was not quite healthy

Cheers

Kees

[FOKKERJ]

Oh you caught me!
I was just trying to advance the score of my long time wingman Kilian.

Thamks for straightening that out before Aquilius found it.

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by Aquilius

Hi FokkerJ,

thanks for the marvellous picture.
It's great to see you again at the challenge!
It feels you haven't been here for years!

But what are you referring to with?



You surely wouldn't find me on a dawn patrol at 6:00 am on a sunday morning!


Cheers

Aquilius

The scoreboard looked good 'til I screwed it up!
Where were you?

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by Varese2002

Thanks to you FokkerJ for producing such a rare picture of this L.F.G. Roland C.VIII. Looking at the picture there is a great change it was taken at the factory premises at Berlin-Charlottenburg, evidenced by the other wingless L.F.G. Roland D-type fighter in the background.

Beware of pencil written identifications on the back of photographs, they may be placed decades later, be inaccurate or just not true.

I hope you will be able to win more points in this Breguet Challenge, so we see more rare pictures.

Cheers

Kees

Originally Posted by Aquilius

Hi FokkerJ,

thanks for the marvellous picture.
It's great to see you again at the challenge!
It feels you haven't been here for years!

But what are you referring to with?



You surely wouldn't find me on a dawn patrol at 6:00 am on a sunday morning!


Cheers

Aquilius

Thank you both for your kind words.
That makes sweating over the mouse trigger while learning how to bid on fotografs such as this more rewarding.

Originally I thought that we needed a book on the lesser known Albatosse, but later discovered that there was already a DATA FILA SPECIAL or MINI D.F. covering the same. I still have some fotos of lesser known and rare planes that might make a small volume. One major problem is finding enough accurate information, but as Aquilius has shown there is some out there.

Thanks again for the kind words and encouragement to continue.

Best Wishes, Jay

P.S. I think that I am just better at guessing and identifying "Winged Wrecks" than whole aircraft (Comparison of the two different scoreboards should back this up!).
Yes Aquilius I try to get on this board atleast once a year, kind of like Kees's frequenting the BCFC.