Breguet's Chrash File Challenge #387

gregorydquist · 28 February 2009, 06:39 PM

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it seems it fell from a steamer, or rammed its hull.

...so it could be the first Kamikaze?

Greg

FOKKERJ · 28 February 2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gregorydquist

...so it could be the first Kamikaze?

Greg

How about a Kamakazi attacking a "Banana Boat"?

FOKKERJ · 28 February 2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquilius

Welcome to another round of Breguet's Chrash File Challenge!

To offer you something to look up, I found this lovely wreck.

Who can tell me what it was?

There is not much left, but I believe in you!
here

Have a good hunt

Aquilius

At first I thought that they might be Americans (so many different looking types!), but now I think that they are Swedish.

A Thulin Type K, fuselage shape and rudder or elevator shape.

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ

Froggy · 1 March 2009, 01:28 AM

Bonjour à tous

Jay you are the best of the best

Here is a photo of the Thulin K with a S on the fuse
before it crashed
(the photo of challenge could be taken on May 14th 1919 when
Enoch Thulin died on the crash of his plane )

Thulin K

Cordialement
Bruno

Flamingo · 1 March 2009, 02:21 AM

Under the fuselage is a part that looks very much like the elevator of a DFW C.V and there could be a fuel tank of a two seater but the wheel looks rather small.
The background looks like a ship in a drydock??

Aquilius · 1 March 2009, 05:38 AM

It always amazes me, what you figure out of pictures where I didn't know what to look for.

Apart from the boxy shape and the "S" I don't see anything distinctive.
Comparing the pictures the rudder doesn't look similar to me.

But you are right, it is the Thulin K!

And in fact it is the crash of Enoch Thulin in May 1919.
I have it from here: Enoch Thulins död

It was the personal aircraft of Enoch Thulin, the only reamaining type K in Sweden (15 were sold to Holland) on which Thulin trained for the meeting in Kopenhagen 1919. He crashed into the "Öresundsvarvets". And do I get it right - his head was found 40 meters away from his body?

I will give 0.20 to Bruno - for mentioning the incident
and the Lion-part 0.80 to FokkerJ - for his ID of the Thulin type K

The scoreboard after challenge #387 is:

47.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤

36.20 Froggy ¤
32.70 Flamingo ¤
30.10 Rbailey ¤
23.40 Breguet
22.15 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
13.25 Aquilius
12.00 Varese2002
09.25 AROTH
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd.............................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond .............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Patrick
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.10 Catfish
03.00 Crimso
02.80 gregorydquist
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.75 Lodzermensch
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

FokkerJ, the next one is up to you!
All others, thanks for playing - but FokkerJ could not be beaten this time...

Cheers

Aquilius

FOKKERJ · 2 March 2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Froggy

Bonjour à tous

Jay you are the best of the best

Here is a photo of the Thulin K with a S on the fuse
before it crashed
(the photo of challenge could be taken on May 14th 1919 when
Enoch Thulin died on the crash of his plane )

Thulin K

Cordialement
Bruno

Thank you Bruno for your kind words and the information.
That's why you are my Nr.I Wing Man!

Congratulations on your share of the KILL confirmation.

Best Wishes, FOKKERJ

The Best Part is that I am surrounded by the Best (51 of 52 Players)!

FOKKERJ · 2 March 2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquilius

It always amazes me, what you figure out of pictures where I didn't know what to look for.

Apart from the boxy shape and the "S" I don't see anything distinctive.
Comparing the pictures the rudder doesn't look similar to me.

But you are right, it is the Thulin K!

And in fact it is the crash of Enoch Thulin in May 1919.
I have it from here: Enoch Thulins död

It was the personal aircraft of Enoch Thulin, the only reamaining type K in Sweden (15 were sold to Holland) on which Thulin trained for the meeting in Kopenhagen 1919. He crashed into the "Öresundsvarvets". And do I get it right - his head was found 40 meters away from his body?

I will give 0.20 to Bruno - for mentioning the incident
and the Lion-part 0.80 to FokkerJ - for his ID of the Thulin type K

The scoreboard after challenge #387 is:

47.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤

36.20 Froggy ¤

FokkerJ, the next one is up to you!
All others, thanks for playing - but FokkerJ could not be beaten this time...

Cheers

Aquilius

Greetings Aquilius,

Thanks for your kind words.
I just saw the "BOXY" fuselage shape and searched from there, the fuselage appeared wide more aft than normal. The rudder or elevator looked close.

I wasn't sure which Thulin it might be as there is such a variety as I learned researching Flamingo's Thulin Triplane. My only Thulin K foto looked close enough!

FOKKERJ · 2 March 2009, 06:03 PM

Thanks for the great challenge and lessons.

I will post the new thread as soon as possible.

I like Graham Hunter's idea of giving a WARNING or "HEADS UP" before the next challenge to give people time to prepare their resources.

It's hard to figure out a good time for posting the next BCFC and to be able to stick to that time....... Perhaps before Dinner... or after Dinner....

Or RIGHT NOW!