Breguet's crash file challenge #392

Aquilius · 8 March 2009, 01:58 AM

Welcome to the 392. editon of Breguet's crash file challenge!

I don't know if you fear my offers in the meanwhile.

As far as I can remember there hasn't been anything unsolved till now.

And we will see what you can do with this one:

Full score for the model, designation and I want to read some of the occasion.

The scoreboard after challenge #391 is:

47.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
36.20 Froggy ¤ Nr.I Wing Man¤
32.70 Flamingo ¤
30.10 Rbailey ¤
23.40 Breguet
22.15 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
14.25 Aquilius
12.00 Varese2002
10.25 AROTH
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd.............................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond .............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Patrick
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.10 Catfish
03.00 Crimso
02.75 Lodzermensch
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

Previous Breguet's Crash Files

Quote:

THE RULES

1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3.All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely!
4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
5. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet

Have a good hunt

Aquilius

Lodzermensch · 8 March 2009, 04:31 AM

Hello Aquilius,

I think this is Zeppelin L33 (LZ76) - type r , so-called Super Zeppelin, because of almost intact gondola with airscrew partially broken and British officers inspecting the wreckage,of course.

L33 under command of Captain-Lieutenant Aloys Bocker was damaged over Britain by AA fire, on 24th Sept. 1916, during the raid on London. Then the ship was attacked by Be 2c from No 39 Sqn. and hit several times. Because of this damages Bocker decided to force landing in Little Wighborough, Essex, England. He was succeeded without the loss of the crew. The crew set fire to the ship but they only managed to burn the hull sheathing.

Greetings

Marek

Aquilius · 8 March 2009, 04:45 AM

Well, Marek, that's it!

I don't need to add anything else.

So next one is yours!

Scoreboard after crash file #392 - L 33 (LZ 76) - is:

47.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
36.20 Froggy ¤ Nr.I Wing Man¤
32.70 Flamingo ¤
30.10 Rbailey ¤
23.40 Breguet
22.15 Richard B
18.15 YavorD
14.25 Aquilius
12.00 Varese2002
10.25 AROTH
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.00 ONEALM
07.90 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Expositor
05.50 Gilles
05.00 Dan_San
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd.............................Have to wait three hours!
04.00 Edmond .............................May start immediately!
04.00 Eric
04.00 Patrick
03.80 gregorydquist
03.75 Lodzermensch
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 Crankcase
03.10 Catfish
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Albatros_Ace
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 Berman
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 Rexee
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

Cheers

Aquilius

Froggy · 8 March 2009, 04:54 AM

Bonjour à tous

I think you are are right Marek -

here is some others thread s about this interesting event
(only occasion for German aviators to be POW on England territory)

ASN Aircraft accident 24-SEP-1916 Zeppelin LZ.76 L.33

List of Zeppelins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

another photo of the L 33 here
1914-1918 Zeppelins

Two Zeppelins brought down in Essex villages.

Cordialement
Bruno

Breguet · 8 March 2009, 01:03 PM

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The crew set fire to the ship but they only managed to burn the hull sheathing

Judging by the twisted girders etc it looks like they did more damage than that! Still - nice lot of aluminium for the British war industry!

Aquilius · 8 March 2009, 01:49 PM

R.L. Rimell noted:

"The British Admiralty spent many month to measure the wrack"
They later built "virtual copies" of it - R 33 & R 34, completed in 1919.

Cheers

Aquilius

Lodzermensch · 8 March 2009, 03:54 PM

Hello,

Thanks Aquilius.

Here is another site on the topic.

Airships: The Zeppelin website.

Quote:

"The British Admiralty spent many month to measure the wrack"
They later built "virtual copies" of it - R 33 & R 34, completed in 1919.

Indeed, almost intact airship structure was a more valuable trophy rather than just aluminum.

Cheers

Marek

FOKKERJ · 8 March 2009, 08:08 PM

WOW Marek....Congratulations!

How did you get this?

I thought it was a boat with a really BIG propeller that a bridge had fell on!

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ

Lodzermensch · 9 March 2009, 01:59 AM

Hello,

Thanks FOKKERJ.

Quote:

I thought it was a boat with a really BIG propeller

Or so I thought.

To say more, I can even see the periscope. What about some U-boot, I thought?

But that grass around – it does not look like seaweed.

So, I wished to look for some flying ship and I did not mean the Flying Dutchman.

Greetings

Marek