Breguet's ID Challenge #600

Flamingo · 30 June 2009, 02:03 PM

Aquilius

your picture shows a "non standard" nacelle with additional fairing around the engine and rear cockpit, maybe that was removable.

With these Otto pushers there was no standard, almost every machine was slightly different. The museum in Schleißheim is building a replica and they told us during a visit that they chose a configuration that was well documented by photographs.

There were at least three different rudder assemblies, one with three rudders and a "biplane tail", an angular single rudder and the rounded Farman style.
The museum will do the three rudder variant.

Breguet · 30 June 2009, 02:36 PM

Certainly some facinating types coming to light!

(And Aquilius we've ruled out all Farmans). Here's another bit to be going on with.

Flamingo · 30 June 2009, 02:47 PM

As the Otto appearantly did not find favour how about a Graham-White?

Rbailey · 30 June 2009, 05:29 PM

Since we are all guessing, how about one of the Schwade doppledeckers of 1912-1914? The rudder on the pictures I am familiar with is similar and there are a two or three possibilities - a Farman copy and a military and a school type.

AROTH · 30 June 2009, 05:44 PM

Looks like an air-to-air shot.......do we get any points for guessing the type of photo-plane used?

Breguet · 30 June 2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AROTH

Looks like an air-to-air shot.......do we get any points for guessing the type of photo-plane used?

Yes

but I'd be surprised if you did!

Dave_Kent · 30 June 2009, 09:02 PM

An air-to-air shot but taken with an air-to-ground camera (GUESS) where the grid lines are built into the function of the camera to help with range finding.

If so, this is fairly sophisticated. So, not Russia, perhaps Western Front or (more likely?) a training or development station. Later in the war.

All speculation.

Breguet · 30 June 2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_Kent

An air-to-air shot but taken with an air-to-ground camera (GUESS) where the grid lines are built into the function of the camera to help with range finding.All speculation.

Interesting theory Dave but the grid lines are there to help me divide up the photo - they're not on the original, which I'll post after someone attempts to put all the pieces together.

Breguet · 1 July 2009, 02:26 AM

Must be time for part 12# - four more to go after this.

Lodzermensch · 1 July 2009, 05:19 AM

Hello,

It is interesting. This aircraft looks a bit like Breguet BU 3 fuselage nacelle and four-wheel undercarriage fitted with Farman style booms and tail section.

Greetings

Marek