Breguet's Aircraft id Challenge # 635

[Froggy]

Bonsoir

I have seen several photos with Salvador Hedilla in front of a plane looking closely to that of the challenge
May be the pilot in the plane is Hedilla ?
Cordialement
Bruno

[Varese2002]

To finish this Challenge ... In the pilot seat is Louis Gibert (Brevet No. 92 - June 1910). The machine is pictured on 21-22 June 1914 in Poitiers being a Vendôme single seat monoplan. Given the bewildering variety of types, difficult to identify (no factory designation), this is the 1914 monoplane featuring a V-leg undercarriage then flown by Gibert. This machine is not identified as the Vendôme 2-seater Type Militaire of 1914.

This machine had nothing to do with the events described by RBailey in Spanish. Further I have found no information about the (licence) building of Vendôme monoplanes in Spain.

To add extra confusion to the Vendôme monoplanes, the 1912 monoplane with the big (bicycle) wheel undercarriage is identified as the 1912 Vendôme Type Militaire (!) by Opdycke.

To confuse the Vendôme identification further the NASM comes with another classification (Vendôme II, III, IV, V, VI etc. also 1914 Type Militaire), which is again different from the descriptions / identification given by Opdycke.

I will allot the point to Rbailey for the identification of the Vendôme Monoplan 1914 (not a Type Militaire), considering the 'diversity' of identification.

'Correct' identification
Vendôme monoplan 1914 flown by Louis Gibert.

The scoreboard at the end of challenge #635

117.20 Varese2002 ¤
85.80 Dave_Kent ¤
73.00 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
19.70 Aquilius
19.65 Froggy
18.70 YavorD
15.90 Flamingo
15.20 richard B
13.80 Rod Filan
12.90 Lodzermensch
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Challenge #636
RBailey

[Rbailey]

Originally Posted by Varese2002

This machine had nothing to do with the events described by RBailey in Spanish. Further I have found no information about the (licence) building of Vendôme monoplanes in Spain.

There are references to Pujol Comabella licence-built Vendomes on a couple of Spanish sites, and a picture somewhere of 3 or 4 machines looking very much like Vendomes parked in front of their hangar, but they are too small to be sure. Hedilla worked for Pujol, and supposedly based his monocoque on the Vendome. Here is a picture of a Spanish Vendome - not stated whether that means Spanish built or not.