Breguet's ID aircraft challenge # 643

[Aquilius]

Originally Posted by Lodzermensch

I think it is Lübeck-Travemünde F.1 judging from the shape of wings and tail section.

Maybe I'm bad at counting tonight, but I have marked the Lübeck-Travemünde F 1 having 4-bay wings. Though I have no picture to compare.


And the Lloyd that built aircrafts was the "Ungarische Lloyd Flugzeug & Motorenfabrik AG" of Budapest-Aszód - not a german city.

It's not that I want to take the hope of your attempts. Just I remain little stumped with this.
Richard, do you have here a picture of the elusive Albatros K351 or K361 ???




Aquilius

[Rbailey]

I think Marek has it. The tailplane struts are right,the float struts are right,and the inter-aileron struts are right.

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous.

Yes ,Marek is right :Congratulation.

It's the

The scoreboard at the end of No 643: D.F.W Lübeck-Travemünde F 1 Marine Nummer 282

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[richard B]

Hello
AQUILIUS

What are those K 351 or K361 ?
Could you ,please tell us more about this Albatros ?

Cheers

Richard

[Aquilius]

Originally Posted by richard B

What are those K 351 or K361 ?
Could you ,please tell us more about this Albatros ?

I'm sorry. I can't.

These designations appear in the navy serials list where the "Marinenummern" 221-230 were assigned to Albtros K351 and 446 & 447 to Albatros K361. That's all.

Nobody seems to know what they were and I haven't found more in the books.


Cheers

Aquilius

[richard B]

Your source seems to be Bruno Lange .
In "Eisernes Kreuz und Balken Kreuz" ,Nowarra wrote :
221-230 :Albatros B
446 :LVG D9
447 : ?

Those lists are not new ,and I know there is a better list on the net ,but where ?

[Aquilius]

My Albstros list is a bit older, maybe based on the Kroschel & Stützer book, since I got the book by Lange just this week.

But there might be some other surces with wich I have updated it.

For the list maybe serch the forum archives for "navy serials" or something.
It spurious appears here at the aerodrome.

Ah, here is it:
List of German navy seaplane serials


Cheers

Aquilius

[Lodzermensch]

Hello,

Merci beaucoup, Richard.

Maybe I'm bad at counting tonight, but I have marked the Lübeck-Travemünde F 1 having 4-bay wings. Though I have no picture to compare.

Aquilius,

You are right. As I told some time ago, we do not use such terminology like single-, two-, etc. bay wings in Polish technical language. So, I did not even count them and it seems to be my advantage in this case. However if you look closely, you can see three pairs of interplane struts (pointed with red, blue and black lines) and fourth pair of struts placed in centre section (indicated with yellow line).

Regards

Marek

[richard B]

Thanks Aquilius and Marek