Who flew this DR1 in red and white with bird?

[TFF]

I would like to know more about the movie planes. I have found these translations. I am not worried about the one saying 527 and you 528; real is real. From the pictures I have seen there seems to be more planes than 2.

Pour le Merite

The planes of the film:

German side, the stars are 2 and 2 Dr.I Fokker D VII with brands correct for once, no iron cross on the Fokker D VII! The Fokker D VII are true from the Berlin Museum which we had to make copies, but were ultimately used for the filming to the chagrin of a museum curator. Note that the Fokker D VII was transferred from Switzerland to the Berlin Museum and ferried flight Dübendorf E. Udet on 31/12/1937. But replica Fokker Dr.I were built by Alfred Friedrich, who was a former fighter pilot. The Fokker triplane seem to be equipped with Siemens motors with propellers very big step and a bonnet a little different from the original. We saw a Focke Wulf Fw 56 Stössi do aerobatics and lose a wing. This parasol monoplane, said the Fokker D VIII monoplane used only at the end of the war by the Germans. The breakdown of a wing in flight at the second trial, also recalled that the plane had a difficult start, mainly due to faulty construction. This scene will be in the 'twilight of Eagles "(1966).

D III 88
The planes of the film:

This kind of film made with the help of naval aviation of the Luftwaffe shows a variety of aircraft. In addition, it does not have any model. Everything is true! The camera does not just show us the aircraft in flight or on ground, but she enters the cockpit, slips in the corridors and battle stations. Nice work for a bad reason!

The DIII 88 is a Fokker Dr.I unmarked individual property. He kept his iron cross (outlined in white, then post-October 1916) but his helm adorned with a swastika. We see two fly Dr.I. These aircraft were to be replicas built by a former German ace, Alfred Friedrich, from real vintage aircraft loaned by the Museum of Berlin (Deutsche Luftfahrtsammlung). But these old aircraft was finally used as such. One is the Fokker Dr.I (527/17) that is seen also in "Pour le Mérite". It is a three Dr.I equipped with an experimental French Clerget engine in 1918. The other (DIII 88), is a Dr.I with a bonnet-shaped horseshoe (such as Fokker E) which is not original. Note that the pilot of the Fokker, in 1918, wearing a parachute harness, but a recent model.

We also saw a Fokker D. VII off in the background. These aircraft face of Bücker Jungmann roundels with English or French. But these sequences are taken from "Pour le Mérite". One of the pilots was Willi Gabriel, a former ace of the First World War, who was hired in 1938 as a stuntman on the set of "Pour le Mérite". During the Second World War, he was elevated to the rank of captain and commanded a squadron of Heinkel 111 bombers.

[Blackclaw]

Originally Posted by Laserlloyd

That was Terry Presley's Triplane. We where told that he had sold his triplan and that's why it wasn't there this year.

Lloyd...

I was disappointed that it wasn't there this year. It would be nice if the new owner starts to attend the fly in so that we can see it again.

[RobW]

The new owner is Jerry Yagen of Virginia Beach.

[Blackclaw]

Originally Posted by RobW

The new owner is Jerry Yagen of Virginia Beach.

Well let's bribe him with cookies or something to make sure he comes to the next one!

Your avatar reminded me that a Sopwith Triplane was present at the 2007 fly in but I did not see it this year. Anyone know of its whereabouts? I never did get to see it fly.

[Laserlloyd]

Not sure but I think the Sopwith triplane didn't fly because of something with the FAA's rules. But that's OK, it would have flown anyway because they tried to start the engine (the only rotatory there that year) with no luck.

I hope that Jerry Yagen get's an invite to the DPR-2011 and becomes aware of the GWAA.

Lloyd...

[farcwarts]

Does anyone know if Richthofen's 425/17 had the black crosses with white outline painted on the underside of the bottom wing? I am for sure going to repaint my triplane to match this aircraft and would like to get it as accurate as possible. Thanks.

['14-'18aviationcollector]

Hi, yes 425 / '17 had all of its crosses, including the crosses on the lower wings. The earlier style crosses were painted over when 425 / '17 was in service, but were still slightly visible since the paint or dope used was not completely opaque.

Regards,

David.

[Laserlloyd]

farcwarts,

Here is one of the lower crosses held at the AWM.
Photo from Landon Bager

I also have one of the backside too.

In most cases (on Dr.I's) at the time it was accepted the bottom cross would have been the Balkenkreuz on a CDL field (no white) But there seems to be a full white field in the photo of the lower cross. I have seen this only in a few other photos of Dr.I's.

The first cross change directive to have the white fields eliminated only leaving the 50 white border. This can be seen in the Lechelle photo.Then the next change to the wide Eisernes Kreuz that is shown in the photo above.


So to answer your question, yes there was a white field that was cut down due to the Idflieg national insignia changes.

Lloyd...

['14-'18aviationcollector]

Hi Lloyd,

Isn't that the cross that was painted over? One of the crosses was "touched up" c.1960's - not by the AWM but by the same guy who made the replica cross I believe.

[Laserlloyd]

That's the first I've heard about it. I don't know the story, do tell. So there is a fake cross too?

Lloyd...