Breguet's aircraft ID challenge # 645

[richard B]

Another easy one ,but you must wait 12 hours ,Lotzermensch

For the front views fans :





The scoreboard at the end of No 644: Hansa-Brandenburg W.17 KuK Nummer A.49

118.00 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
73.00 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
19.70 Aquilius
19.65 Froggy
18.70 YavorD
18.20 richard B
15.90 Flamingo
15.70 Lodzermensch
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


Please,don't forget the RULES:

1.The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
6. (always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
7. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
8. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
9. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
10. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
11. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
12. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.


Earlier challenges can be found here :

Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

[Rbailey]

It’s a Kaiserliche Werke seaplane, but I am somewhat confused about designation. It seems to be KWW type CHFT (#947) but Pawlas shows the same picture identified as KWK type CFT. The 4 bladed propeller implies a 220 hp model consistent with the KWW identification, and this also agrees with other sources.

[Aquilius]

Could this be a seaplane built by the Kaiserliche Werft Kiel, possibly the “W.2”?

This had also two-bay struts, most likely oblique and centre struts fittet separately at the top wing, not in german traingular style and it had a spinner.

The only picture known to me shows a similar surrounding even with barrels laying around.


Cheers

Aquilius

[Aquilius]

Hey Ron, are you referring to the Kaiserliche Werft Kiel and Wilhelmshaven?

I know there are some questions about the desigantions but these "CHFT" and "CFT" codes were assigned by the navy and defined the purpose and it's equipment. The first letter was kind of a class designation, similar to that used with the army.
B-bomber, C-armed two-seater, E-single seater (Einsitzer)...
FT- (Funktelegraph) meant a radio equipment was fittet
HFT- radio equipment with receiver

Were they given beforehand by the Werft?


Cheers

Aquilius

[richard B]

Bonsoir à tous

Congratulation ,Rbailey ,it's the KWW C #947

Cheers

Richard


The scoreboard at the end of No 645: Kaiserliche Werft Wihelmshaven C #947

118.00 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.00 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
19.70 Aquilius
19.65 Froggy
18.70 YavorD
18.20 richard B
15.90 Flamingo
15.70 Lodzermensch
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

[Rbailey]

Aquilius

I know little about the designations of these machines; there doesn't seem to be a werke designation anywhere. I was going by the designation given in Kroschel und Stutzer but the marine number seems to be used mostly. And I did mess up with Werke instead of Werft -too rushed and minimal German.