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Old 27 October 2009, 11:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Crash File Challenge #501

Wilkommen Boys and girls to the BCFC Nr. 501.
Pack your chutes and buckle up!

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That is strange - I thought I had posted the result yesterday!

Ok, it is an Alb D.V or D.Va, impossible to recognize.



Full point to Jay and congratulations!
That is strange - I thought I had posted this Thread yesterday!

Scoreboard at the end of # 500 - Alb D.V / D.Va

58.70 Flamingo ¤ ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
57.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ ¤ Nr.I Wing Man ¤
40.60 Froggy ¤
33.15 Lodzermensch ¤
32.30 Rbailey ¤
30.15 RichardB ¤
27.00 Breguet ¤
24.70 YavorD
16.45 Aquilius
15.25 AROTH
12.50 Varese2002
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.04 Gregvan
08.00 ONEALM
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.40 Expositor
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.20 Crankcase
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd.......................Have to wait three hours!

04.50 Rufe .............................May start immediately
04.00 Eric
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Patrick
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.10 Catfish
03.00 Albatros_Ace
03.00 Berman
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
02.00 Sobrien
02.00 Rexee
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

And, please, look carefully at the previous challenges, to avoid duplicates ....
Breguet's Crash Files


The Rules :

1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely!
4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
5. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet.


I submit the following for your educational and entertainment purposes only:



HAPPY HUNTING, FOKKERJ
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Old 28 October 2009, 02:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Bonjour à tous

The rectangular wings , struts arrangement( at the end of the lower wing) ,radiator ,seem to be those of a
late ALBATROS C I

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Old 28 October 2009, 02:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Jay

from the curved wing cut outs I would say Alb C.III
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Old 28 October 2009, 02:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello,

Judging by the shape of upper wing cut-out, front radiator, exhaust stack and the shape of rear cockpit cut-out this seems to be the Albatros C.Ib – dual-control trainer.

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Old 28 October 2009, 04:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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When looking closer there seems to be no gun ring so it could be a late Alb B.II.
The constant chord aileron does not fit the C.I.
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Old 29 October 2009, 02:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Guys,

Make up you mind!

Check out the rudder!

CHEERS, FOKKERJ

Here's a better fotograf:



NO THAT's NOT IT!




It's clearly an LFG Roland C.II/Albatros C.Ia Hybrid!!!!

It crashed on it's test flight and the "Tandem" Design was not persued any further!

See:

Breguet's Crash File #42 I'm sure!



Points to follow.

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Old 29 October 2009, 02:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This the end.......

Thanks to all of you that participated in this challenge.

A Special Thank You to Joachim and Marek for playing with us.

Congratulations to Richard for getting it right on his first try!




Scoreboard at the end of Nr. 501 Albatros C.Ia mit Roland Flugzeug.

58.70 Flamingo ¤ ¤ Ace of Aces ¤
57.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ ¤ Nr.I Wing Man ¤
40.60 Froggy ¤
33.15 Lodzermensch ¤
32.30 Rbailey ¤
31.15 RichardB ¤
27.00 Breguet ¤
24.70 YavorD
16.45 Aquilius
15.25 AROTH
12.50 Varese2002
08.10 Rod_Filan
08.04 Gregvan
08.00 ONEALM
07.50 matte_kudasai
06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
06.40 Expositor
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.20 Crankcase
05.00 Kilian
05.00 Laserlloyd.......................Have to wait three hours!

04.50 Rufe .............................May start immediately
04.00 Eric
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Patrick
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.10 Catfish
03.00 Albatros_Ace
03.00 Berman
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Rickenbaron
02.00 Sobrien
02.00 Rexee
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Ampovandak
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Miroslav Pokorny
00.10 SCMc

And, please, look carefully at the previous challenges, to avoid duplicates ....
Breguet's Crash Files ; )


The Rules :

1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period).
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely!
4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
5. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host!
6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet.


I submit the following for your educational and entertainment purposes only:



HAPPY HUNTING, FOKKERJ

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Old 29 October 2009, 05:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hello,

Jay,

Are you absolutely sure about the type? Do not get me wrong but many parts of the aircraft do not match the Albatros C.III type.


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For instance ,ailerons and distance between outer struts and lower wing end
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Hi,

Not to mention the shape of cut-out which is not curved (concave) and the shape of starboard elevator which is not such oval as it was in Alb. C.III.

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