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2 November 2009, 12:57 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Location: Scharrachbergheim
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Friedrichshafen FF 33E
Good morning.
I search photographs or of information concerning the cockpit of Friedrichshafen ff-33e or another version.
I fear that they do not exist....
I do not find them on Internet.
There are not photographs in "Windsock Datafile n°073- Friedrichshafen FF 33E"
Regards.
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5 November 2009, 02:31 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Location: Scharrachbergheim
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I found this book, but no painting or photograph of cockpit.
It is a book in German with outside views (photo and drawings) of plane.
Si somebody wants to see it, say it to me.
Regards.
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5 November 2009, 04:07 PM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Graz, Styria
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You have that Friedrichshafen book I'm looking for quite a while! 
Can you recommend it? Do you know where I can get one?
Unfortunately I can't help you out with a cockpit shot of that aircraft.
Will see if there is something in one of the old magazines, but there is not too much hope I find one.
Have you checked out the Windsock Datafile #73?
There are ususally all sorts of detail shots included.
available here: Windsock Datafile Specials - Aircraft of WWI
and sometimes on ebay...
Cheers
Aquilius
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6 November 2009, 02:49 AM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquilius
You have that Friedrichshafen book I'm looking for quite a while! 
Can you recommend it? Do you know where I can get one?
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Hi Aquilius!
Flugzeugbau Friedrichshafen GmbH von Theodor Kober und Siegfried Borzutzki (ISBN 3927513601) should be easily available in Germany (at least two copies for sale through Amazon.de or ZVAB).
I have it on my low-priority list but not on order yet.
Regards,
Yavor
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6 November 2009, 03:06 AM
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Forum Ace
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Quimper , Bretagne / France
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Hello AQUILIUS
I have the book : I recommend it to every "Typen sammler "
Even some rare projects ...
Cheers
richard
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6 November 2009, 07:54 AM
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Forum Ace
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Thanks, Yavor & Richard!
It was not offered by amazon for some time
and the book searching machines I used do not direct me to amazon as they usually do.
But one question, was Theodor Kober the chief desinger of Friedrichshafen involved in writing this book?
Cheers
Aquilius
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6 November 2009, 08:28 AM
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Author is Siegfried Borzutzki .T.Korber seems not to be involved in writing the book .
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25 November 2009, 06:30 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Hi,
I'm reading into WS:
- P7 photo N°14 "above the pilot head (rear cockpit)".
- P25 Photo N°38 " an array of flare cartridge can be seen beside the observer's cockpit " front cockpit on the photo.
My english is not very good but I'm understanding that pilot is in the rear cockpit.
Is it OK ?
Do you have information?
Regards
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25 November 2009, 06:59 AM
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Forum Ace
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Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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Data from British report about Bulgarian aeroplanes.
Quote:
- On "Friedrichshafen Seaplane, 1916 type" (FF.33E, Marine No.862) "Pilot's cockpit centre in line with trailing edge of bottom planes" [back]. "Observer's cockpit between planes" [front].
- On "Friedrichshafen seaplane, 1917 type" (FF.33L, Marine No.1271, W.Nr.500) "Pilot's cockpit between planes" [front], "centre of observer's cockpit in line with trailing edge of lower planes" [back].
Source: The National Archives (Kew) AIR 1/713/27/19
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Regards,
Yavor
Last edited by YavorD; 25 November 2009 at 07:00 AM.
Reason: Typo.
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25 November 2009, 02:01 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Thank you Yavor.
The aircraft was piloted by Leutnant-flieger Matthaus Stein (left) and co-piloted by Oberflugmeister Paul Fabeck (right), also the mechanic
Paul Fabeck is here into the front cockpit and the pilot into the rear cockpit:
Perhaps everyone will have his turn to pilot plane.... or not.
Regards.
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