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Old 5 November 2009, 03:37 PM #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #648

Ladies & Gentlemen, welcome to Breguet’s Aircraft ID Challenge #648!

This time I have a little bigger picture for you.

What aircraft do we have here?
Who designed and who built it?
And if you have please give a little bit of it’s flying history.

The scorebaord after challenge #647 – Marinearsenal Flugzeug Nr.7 – is:

119.00 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.00 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
20.70 Aquilius
19.65 Froggy
18.70 YavorD
18.20 richard B
15.90 Flamingo
15.70 Lodzermensch
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


Previous challenges : Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

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The Rules

1.The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
6. (always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
7. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
8. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
9. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
10. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
11. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
12. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
Have a good hunt!

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Old 5 November 2009, 03:42 PM #2 (permalink)
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Hello Aquilius,

Where can we find the picture?

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Old 5 November 2009, 03:54 PM #3 (permalink)
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Hi,

Sorry for the previous question. There is something wrong with my internet. I can not see any attached picture. It is interesting.

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Old 5 November 2009, 04:16 PM #4 (permalink)
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I can not see any attached picture. It is interesting.

Marek
I'm sorry Marek, I don't know what this may cause.
If you are also interested in the picture, here is a direct link:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...ste/BAC648.jpg


Hopefully you can work it out soon.


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Old 6 November 2009, 06:57 AM #5 (permalink)
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I have not had any problem seeing the picture. Identifying it is another matter.
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Old 6 November 2009, 07:11 AM #6 (permalink)
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I find a Dehan flugzeug from 1910 - same picture, upturned wingtips on a sleek looking monoplane. Did it fly in 1914?

By the way, it is Swiss.

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Old 6 November 2009, 07:35 AM #7 (permalink)
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I find a Dehan flugzeug from 1910 - same picture, upturned wingtips on a sleek looking monoplane. Did it fly in 1914?

By the way, it is Swiss.
...so you found the source I have the picture from.

Just I was not asking for the "Dehan Flugzeug".
I think you know, I probably would have retouched the name from the rudder if this was all to find out.

Actually I do not even know who is this "Dehan" and what he had to do with this aircraft. He maybe bought or sponsored it.


Then this aircraft appeared much later than 1910.
Have a close look - does it look like a 1910-design?

And I have it flown into 1915.


Keep looking!

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Aquilius - I figured that Dehan was not the actual identity, especially when the source said designer unknown. Since they got the year wrong, is the nationality (Swiss) right?
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...is the nationality (Swiss) right?
Particularly.


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There was a Swiss monoplane by G. Cailler with a swallow-like appearance and upturned wingtips - not sure of the year, but I think it was built well before 1915.
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