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Old 15 November 2009, 01:24 AM #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's aircraft ID challenge #651

Hello

A new easy one :Good luck

Richard


The scoreboard after challenge No 650 - Hær-Maskinen (H.5)

119.20 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.80 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
20.70 Aquilius
19.65 Froggy
19.20 richard B
18.70 YavorD
16.70 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher






Previous Challenges :
Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The Rules

1.The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified
6. (always check the list at earlyaviator.com/br.challenge when in doubt !)
7. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
8. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
9. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
10. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
11. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
12. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 15 November 2009, 03:46 PM #2 (permalink)
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Looks like a cross between an Albatros EE and the later plywood-wrapped fuselage types, but I can't find a match to a single machine.
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It reminds me a Röver designed "Wickelrumpf" of some Halberstadt Taubes. It is hard to say which one.
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Old 15 November 2009, 11:21 PM #4 (permalink)
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Hello .

Yavor ,you are very very near .

Completly out topic :I have seen a stamp showing the Lazarov's DAR 9 ,looking much like the FW 44 Stieglitz :is it a copy ,or a licence built ?
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Old 16 November 2009, 02:20 AM #5 (permalink)
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Hi Richard!
I will try with
Halberstädter Flugzeugwerke FmbH produced, Karl Theiß designed Bristol-Halberstadt Taube II (because of the early form of tailplanes).
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OT: ДАР-9 (DAR-9) is an original design, inspired by several German aerobatic trainers, as well as by German school of aircraft design. May I recommend the following recent reference?

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Димитър Недялков
Самолетостроенето в България (Aircraft Manufacture in Bulgaria)
Dimitar Nedialkov, Peter Skipp, Penyo Penev, Albatros MDV, Sofia 2009, First edition, bilingual, hardcover / softcover, 188 pages, 29 colour illustrations (hardcover edition only), 220 x 290 mm (ISBN 9789549242614).
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Thank you for the info .

Your ID is perfect :it's the Bristol-Halberstadt Taube II built in little number in 1913 and 1914 .Fuselage was Röver Patent type .

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The scoreboard after challenge No 651 -Bristol-Halberstadt Taube II

119.20 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.80 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
20.70 Aquilius
19.70 YavorD
19.65 Froggy
19.20 richard B
16.70 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher
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