Breguet's ID challenge #657

[richard B]

Bonjour à tous.

Here is the #657 :enjoy

I don't know the story around this photo : I hope showing it here will give some clues...
Just give the name (builder+type) to get the full mark

GOOD LUCK

Richard





The scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 656: Brandenburg C.I (Ph) series 26.

120.20 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.80 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
22.20 richard B
20.70 Aquilius
19.70 YavorD
19.65 Froggy
17.70 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

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[SCMc]

Hi Richard,

I was not able to see the photo in your post, but was able to see it at Imageshack by clicking on it.

I believe it is a Siemens-Schuckert D.I. It looks like a Nieuport 17 with an incomplete (horse shoe) cowl, and three vents behind the cowl.

I don't know what happened to this plane, but it appears to have had a lower wing failure on both sides. Both lower wing tips are folded up, and the left lower wing root looks odd. The upper wing also appears to be sagging, suggesting that the landing wires are not doing their job.

Steve

[John McKenzie]

Hi I agrea . A SSW DI (orDIa ) Note also the extra large diametre propellor. Not sure if I can make out the spinner though in this photo or the number , if any , of guns fitted to this particular machine .
Its posibly a prototype TypeTest machine .as the presence of the large instrument on RH of cockpit . Could be a altimetre or some type of barograph .
Looks like a close call " In-flight wing failure "...followed by a ( With the grace of God ) heavy landing !,breaking ( or stetching over the limit ) landing wires . John
Good call SCMc

[richard B]

Hello

SCMc and john McKenzie , welcome in the challenge !
Two future aces the very same day ,it's great .

SCMc you have got it :SSW D I

About the plane ,something is not clear to me : the wing struts are not broken ,and SHORTER as normal.
How is it possible ? Maybe ,it's not an accident ,but a strange modification??

Cheers

Richard




The scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 657:
SIEMENS SCHUCKERT SSW D I

120.20 Varese2002 ¤
86.20 Dave_Kent ¤
74.80 Rbailey ¤
33.30 Cruze¤
22.20 richard B
20.70 Aquilius
19.70 YavorD
19.65 Froggy
17.70 Lodzermensch
15.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.70 Breguet
08.70 Dan-San
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
06.70 Berman
06.70 Ampovandak
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.45 GregE
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.00 Brad
03.00 sobrien
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 SCMc
01.00 airplane176
01.00 Catfish
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

[FOKKERJ]

Originally Posted by richard B

Hello

SCMc and john McKenzie , welcome in the challenge !
Two future aces the very same day ,it's great .

SCMc you have got it :SSW D I

About the plane ,something is not clear to me : the wing struts are not broken ,and SHORTER as normal.
How is it possible ? Maybe ,it's not an accident ,but a strange modification??

Cheers

Richard




The scoreboard at the end of Challenge No 657:
SIEMENS SCHUCKERT SSW D I

Hello Richard,

I definetly do believe that the lower wings have been compromised in an accident as both wing tips look seriously bent upwards.

Are you sure that you didn't just get a little confused between this Challenge and the other one (BCFC)?

HAPPY HUNTING FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger

P.S. If it weren't for the top wing looking bent also, I would think that this is the elusive and extremely rare S.S.W. D.I "GULL WING" version.

[SCMc]

I am glad to be on the board, but I do not have any photos that I can use for the challenge. I will have to default to the following rule:

The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.

If any one else has a good challenge to post, I don't think Breguet would mind them volunteering.

Steve