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2 March 2010, 08:16 PM
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Breguet's Crash File Challenge #540
Welcome to Breguet's Crash File Challenge #540.
This one should be fairly easy. It is a chance for new people and nonaces to get involved.  Steve Breguet's Crash File Challenge # 539 was a B.E.2c The scoreboard at the beginning of Breguet's Crash File Challenge # 540: 64.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ ¤ Ace of Aces ¤ 62.60 Flamingo ¤ ¤ Nr.I Wing Man ¤ 40.60 Froggy ¤ 40.46 Lodzermensch ¤ 32.30 Rbailey ¤ 32.55 RichardB ¤ 28.00 Breguet ¤ 26.70 YavorD ¤ 17.25 AROTH 16.45 Aquilius 14.30 Varese2002 09.30 Rod_Filan 08.10 Gregvan 08.00 ONEALM 07.50 matte_kudasai 06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector 06.40 Expositor 06.00 Dan_San_Abbott 05.75 Ross 05.70 Jeroplan 05.50 Gilles 05.20 Crankcase 05.20 Laserlloyd 05.00 Kilian 05.00 Patrick ................ Have to wait three hours 04.50 Rufe ................... May start immediately 04.20 SCMc 04.00 Eric 04.00 Edmondy 03.80 gregorydquist 03.50 sergio_vitalio 03.30 PaulForster 03.20 Colin A Owers 03.10 Catfish 03.00 Albatros_Ace 03.00 Berman 03.00 Crimso 04.00 Rexee 02.70 Tbstreet 02.00 Cruze 02.00 Rickenbaron 02.00 Sobrien 01.80 Tom L 01.50 Nieuport 14 01.45 Ransom E. Olds 01.10 John McKenzie 01.00 Ampovandak 01.00 brisfitworks 01.00 Cliff 01.00 Graham Hunter 01.00 Pvernon 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 RONNY BAR 01.00 Troy Raines 01.00 ulpilot 00.50 Aeronaut 00.50 Miroslav Pokorny Previous Breguet's Crash Files: Breguet's Crash Files The Rules: 1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period). 2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread. 3. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely! 4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification. 5. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host! 6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge. 7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet. |
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2 March 2010, 09:03 PM
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i'm looking thru books right now to see if i can fig it out. must be austro-hung and must trace some lineage to the lloyd c series the wing shape the fact that its a split wing with the same tank that the lloyd have. i hope i can find it.
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2 March 2010, 09:41 PM
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ooook, i'm not crazy, do you at least admit that it looks very similar to a A-H lloyd aircraft. wing shape , ailerons( although they arent scalloped) the wing is split in 2 like a lloyd and i has that tank in the split. the fuselage is squared off toward the back. i cant see the tail feathers clearly.or the nose but is a very similar animal no?
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3 March 2010, 12:58 AM
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Bonjour à tous
It could be the Lloyd 40.02 ,Type LS-2 experimental Aufklärer ,a modified D.F.W B I . My clues are the " banana wing " for D.F.W B I ,and a picture p.307 of Keimel's " Luftfahrzeugbau in Österreich " wich shows the 40.02 in a very similar situation . Richard |
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3 March 2010, 06:38 AM
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Congratulations Joachim.
It is DFW B.I "Weddinton" which had an accident on 27.10.1915. The unmodified photo is here, at Rosebud's. Thanks to albatros1234 for participating, and to Richard for providing the connection between the Lloyd planes and the DFW B.I. Steve Breguet's Crash File Challenge # 540: DFW B.I "Weddinton" The scoreboard at the end of Breguet's Crash File Challenge # 540: 64.50 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ¤ ¤ Ace of Aces ¤ 63.60 Flamingo ¤ ¤ Nr.I Wing Man ¤ 40.60 Froggy ¤ 40.46 Lodzermensch ¤ 32.30 Rbailey ¤ 32.55 RichardB ¤ 28.00 Breguet ¤ 26.70 YavorD ¤ 17.25 AROTH 16.45 Aquilius 14.30 Varese2002 09.30 Rod_Filan 08.10 Gregvan 08.00 ONEALM 07.50 matte_kudasai 06.80 '14-'18aviationcollector 06.40 Expositor 06.00 Dan_San_Abbott 05.75 Ross 05.70 Jeroplan 05.50 Gilles 05.20 Crankcase 05.20 Laserlloyd 05.00 Kilian 05.00 Patrick ................ Have to wait three hours 04.50 Rufe ................... May start immediately 04.20 SCMc 04.00 Eric 04.00 Edmondy 03.80 gregorydquist 03.50 sergio_vitalio 03.30 PaulForster 03.20 Colin A Owers 03.10 Catfish 03.00 Albatros_Ace 03.00 Berman 03.00 Crimso 04.00 Rexee 02.70 Tbstreet 02.00 Cruze 02.00 Rickenbaron 02.00 Sobrien 01.80 Tom L 01.50 Nieuport 14 01.45 Ransom E. Olds 01.10 John McKenzie 01.00 Ampovandak 01.00 brisfitworks 01.00 Cliff 01.00 Graham Hunter 01.00 Pvernon 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 RONNY BAR 01.00 Troy Raines 01.00 ulpilot 00.50 Aeronaut 00.50 Miroslav Pokorny Previous Breguet's Crash Files: Breguet's Crash Files The Rules: 1. All aircraft are of the 14-18 period (Must have left the ground during this period). 2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread. 3. All "ACES" with a score of 5.0 or higher must obey the 3.0 hour handicap. All others with a score of ZERO to 4.99 may start immediately, if not sooner! Offenders will be dealt with severely! 4. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification. 5. And whom ever wins this challenge will have to provide a new one! If this can not be done for any reason, please PM Breguet and he will take over as host! 6. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next challenge. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge. 7. The final arbitrator of all things to do with the "rules" is Breguet. Last edited by SCMc; 3 March 2010 at 05:39 PM. Reason: I forgot to give Flamingo the point |
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