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Old 19 May 2010, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #752

An easier one, perhaps.

The scoreboard after challenge #751: The Grahame-White Experimental 2 Seater.

133.90 Varese2002 ¤¤
95.10 Dave_Kent ¤
84.20 Rbailey ¤
35.40 richard B ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
26.80 Aquilius
25.30 Lodzermensch ¤
21.35 Froggy
21.20 YavorD
16.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
10.45 GregE
10.00 Breguet
09.70 Dan-San
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
07.05 Ermeio
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L
05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.90 Brad
03.00 SCMc
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Catfish
02.00 John McKenzie
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


Previous challenges are at:
Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

The RULES:

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• The thread title must be "Bréguet's aircraft ID challenge #......"
• The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
• The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
• The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
• Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !).
• If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
• Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
• To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
• The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
• If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets
no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
• The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules will be Breguet.
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Old 20 May 2010, 06:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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By the undercarriage, an Avro, and by the rudder, I think a Type E (500).
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Old 20 May 2010, 06:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think Dave is right, it is an Avro 500 Biplane, also known as AVRO 50 hp biplane (or 80hp) - or type E.
Derived from the Avro Duigan, which had a Green inline Engine.
Without a clear view of the engine we cannot decide if the engine is 50 hp or 80hp, but we can tell this is not the green.
Distinctive is the undercarriage shape and the shape of the engine cowling.
Four were ordered - I don't know if four or five were built.
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Old 20 May 2010, 01:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think that strictly speaking only the prototype was type E and the following versions were given the new designation of 500. Dave got it first along with the next challenge, but I will give Ermeio a fraction of a point for the added information.

The scoreboard after challenge #752: Avro 500

133.90 Varese2002 ¤¤
95.90 Dave_Kent ¤
84.20 Rbailey ¤
35.40 richard B ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
26.80 Aquilius
25.30 Lodzermensch ¤
21.35 Froggy
21.20 YavorD
16.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
10.45 GregE
10.00 Breguet
09.70 Dan-San
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.30 Patrick
07.10 Colin A. Owers
07.25 Ermeio
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L
05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
03.90 Brad
03.00 SCMc
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Catfish
02.00 John McKenzie
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 ’14-‘18aviationcollector
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher
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