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Old 10 September 2010, 01:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge Nr.790

Wilkommen Boys and Girls to the 790th BA/CIDC.

I sincerely hope that your wait for this is well worth your while.

The score at the end of #789: American Murray-Carns (sometimes given as Murray-Cams) biplane of 1918.

135.90 Varese2002 ¤¤
104.70 Dave_Kent ¤¤
88.20 Rbailey ¤
37.40 richard B ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
28.00 Aquilius ¤
26.30 Lodzermensch ¤
23.40 YavorD
22.35 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
11.00 Breguet
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.10 Colin A. Owers
07.25 Ermeio
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
07.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L
05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours
04.70 dpolglaze........................ may start immediately
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.30 HoHun
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 John McKenzie
03.90 Brad
03.00 Catfish
03.00 SCMc
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.50 '14-'18aviationcollector
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
01.00 albatros1234
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher




Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* --

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1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's -Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !).
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET



For your entertainment and educational purposes only, I submit the following for your approval:


WHAT A HOT ROD!!!!



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Old 10 September 2010, 02:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You will not believe me, but Breguet Challenge #47 has this one already. I realize this is already about 4 years ago, December 16, 2006 - time flies

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Old 10 September 2010, 02:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You will not believe me, but Breguet Challenge #47 has this one already. I realize this is already about 4 years ago, December 16, 2006 - time flies

Kees
Thank you Kees, but I wasn't here yet.... Does that count?

Please tell me what this is, I have a miserable time trying to research the Archives since some things changed.

I don't know if all of my fotografs are correctly labled or not, so I don't always have good results when I check these.

What was Challenge #47's prize name?

Thank you, Jay

P.S. If this has been done already I will throw another one out soon.
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Old 10 September 2010, 02:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Kees,

OK, I found it with the simple information available:

Dornier V 1 [Zeppelin-Lindau V 1]



It's half past sleepy time here!

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Old 10 September 2010, 02:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here we go with a new start time:



I believe we have a WINNER!!!!

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All Quiet On The Western Front! :)

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I believe we have a WINNER!!!!

HAPPY TRAILS, FOKKERJ
ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT!

This is indeed a good sign.
Nobody has disputed the virginity of this image for challenge purposes yet!

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Hello Jay,

Looks like Zeppelin-Lindau (Dornier) C.II judging by wings shape, tail shape, observer's post and upper wing cut-out.

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Hello Jay,

Looks like Zeppelin-Lindau (Dornier) C.II judging by wings shape, tail shape, observer's post and upper wing cut-out.

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Marek
Hello Marek,

I was beginning to think that nobody wanted to play!

Zeppelin-Lindau (Dornier) C.II?

I don't know, I'll have to look.
I've handled so many fotografs of rare and unusual aeroplanes lately that I can't remember.

Good news is that you may be right....
Bad news is that my fotos don't all have an accurate description on the back.

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Hello Jay,

Looks like Zeppelin-Lindau (Dornier) C.II judging by wings shape, tail shape, observer's post and upper wing cut-out.

Regards

Marek
Whew, That was a close one!

You sure had me worried that I had mindlessly picked two "Mystery Machines" (M-n-M's)
by the same maker in a row.
Dodged a bullet that time !

My limited reference says ABSOLUTELY NOT!

If you have substantial evidence/facts to refute this, please prove it.
My reference could be wrong.

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P.S. Try again!
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It is daylight again here

This is the Daimler L 8 a two-seat fighter produced in 1918 as a single prototype. Machine can be distinguished by the following features:

- radiator built in the top wing
- single bay wing
- flat side and top fuselage, plywood covering
- front part of the fuselage metal covered
- form of the rudder
- straight continuous elevator (no split in between), fitted in the midst of the tapering fuselage

A rare piece, fine picture, neve seen this one.

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