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Old 10 October 2010, 01:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #806

Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #806

A new one for your investigation.

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Scoreboard at the start of #806

139.40 Varese2002 ¤¤
107.70 Dave_Kent ¤¤
90.20 Rbailey ¤
38.40 richard B ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
28.00 Aquilius ¤
27.55 Lodzermensch ¤
23.40 YavorD
22.35 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
11.00 Breguet
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.10 Colin A. Owers
07.25 Ermeio
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L
05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.75 SCMc ........................may start immediately
04.70 dpolglaze
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.30 HoHun
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 John McKenzie
03.90 Brad
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.50 '14-'18aviationcollector
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
01.00 albatros1234
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher


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1. The thread title must be "Bréguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......"
2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread.
3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster.
4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference).
5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's -Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !).
6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted.
7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer.
8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification.
9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge.
10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge.
11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET
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Old 10 October 2010, 01:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Based on the wing bracing and general appearance, I think this is a 1915 Christofferson Tractor, perhaps in Mexico.

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Hello,

This is the Tractor Sport biplane built by Kyle Smith in 1917, offered for 3’000,00 $, recognisable thanks to unequal wingspan, slightly sloped centre section struts, two bay lay-out and shape of the rudder extending beneath the fuselage.

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PS. http://www.aerofiles.com/kylesmith-ad.jpg

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Old 10 October 2010, 09:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Congratulations to Marek on correctly identifying this very rare machine. Little is known about the Kyle Smith Aircraft Company of Wheeling, West Virginia. This is their first machine built in 1917, known as a two place tractor biplane. As the machine was advertised in the aviation media, this is about all there is to know about this machine.

The Kyle Smith Aircraft Company, president Kyle Smith, was formed in July 1917 with a capital of $ 200.000. The firm survived till 1919, building at least two other machines (no pictures I know of), a 1918 pusher biplane and a 1919 pusher biplane. (Nice candidates for this Challenge, but alas no pictures or drawing .



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Correct identification

Kyle-Smith two-place tractor biplane dating from 1917.

Scoreboard at the end of #806

139.40 Varese2002 ¤¤
107.70 Dave_Kent ¤¤
90.20 Rbailey ¤
38.40 richard B ¤
33.30 Cruze ¤
28.55 Lodzermensch ¤
28.00 Aquilius ¤
23.40 YavorD
22.35 Froggy
16.90 Flamingo
13.80 Rod Filan
11.00 Breguet
10.45 GregE
10.30 Patrick
09.70 Dan-San
09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger
09.50 matte_kudasai
08.40 JohnMacG
07.70 EdStevens
07.60 trp81
07.10 Colin A. Owers
07.25 Ermeio
06.70 Ampovandak
06.70 Berman
06.10 joegertler
06.00 Eric Goedkoop
05.90 Doc
05.70 AROTH
05.60 ercoupepilot
05.30 Crimso
05.30 Der Grüne Flieger
05.20 Maze
05.20 Gilles
05.10 bshatzer
05.00 Tom L
05.00 sobrien ..........................have to wait 12 hours

04.75 SCMc ........................may start immediately
04.70 dpolglaze
04.40 Ross Moorhouse
04.30 edmondthieffry
04.30 HoHun
04.20 Rufe
04.00 greenknight
04.00 John McKenzie
03.90 Brad
03.00 Catfish
03.00 Linhawk
02.50 Gregoire
02.50 Rexee
02.50 '14-'18aviationcollector
02.30 ckingh5
02.10 Crankcase
02.00 austin08
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.70 Kilian
01.60 airplane176
01.60 sergio_vitalio
01.50 Albatros_Ace
01.30 Cigogne
01.20 Ransom E. Olds
01.00 Cliff
01.00 cubsfan4life
01.00 gregorydquist
01.00 Luf-Rick
01.00 Mike Westorp
01.00 paolomiana
01.00 Peter Zambori
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 SL DIII
01.00 Tripehound
01.00 albatros1234
00.90 Stig Jarlevik
00.80 Machinbird
00.80 Mad Mac
00.80 tbstreet
00.80 toxisch
00.60 Sreiko
00.50 Martin Irvine
00.40 Vilkata
00.30 albapfalzd30
00.30 Miroslav Pokorny
00.30 Nieuport14
00.20 Paul_J._Fisher

Challenge #807 is in the hands of Lodzermensch

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