Austrian plane 92.49

[Angiolillo]

The plane n. 92.49 should be an Aviatik D.I made by MAG - Magyar Általános Gépgyár RT. Does anybody knows more about it?

Thanks so much,

Andrea

[Tork1945]

92.49 was one of the 172 Aviatik D.I machines built by MAG. Look for the full story in Grosz, Haddow and Schiemer Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of World War One. Page 350-351.

Tork1945

[Angiolillo]

Thanks a lot for the reference! But it is not exactly an easy source to find. The only copy I found on Amazon costs 468,54 euros.

[Tork1945]

Originally Posted by Angiolillo

Thanks a lot for the reference! But it is not exactly an easy source to find. The only copy I found on Amazon costs 468,54 euros.

You are right, prices are somewhat inflated for this big size 500 page book. I remember that a few years ago the publisher sold the remaining stock for a reduced price.

Remember there are two editions. The first edition had some fifty full page color three-views of Austro-hungarian machines. They were omitted from the second edition. Rumour had it that Peter M. Grosz was not satisfied with the historical accuracy of the colors.

When you search on Bookfinder you will find lot of copies, but generally at high to very high (exorbitant) prices.

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[Fliegermann]

I read where Tork1945 cited pages 350 351. In looking at those pages they do not specifically talk about a specific plane but discuss the entire Series 92 production. The following is taken from AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN ARMY AIRCRAFT OF WORLD WAR ONE BY GROSZ, et al.
Aviatik D.I (MAG) Series 92
"On 9 October 1917, the total of 46 Aviatik D.I (MAG) fighters, ordered on 17 July 1917, was increased to 72 at the expense of the Aviatik C.I (MAG). In addition another 100 fighters were ordered on 10 May 1918. Acceptances of the fighters, numbered 92.01 to 92.172 and powered by the 200hp Daimler(MAG) engine, began to arrive in April 1918. By 31 October 121 had been accepted, almost all without armament and some without engines.
When Flik 72/J on the Piave front received the first Aviatik D.I(MAG) in August 1918,evaluation flights produced such dismal results that the squadron rejected the type because"... it is impossible to fly this aircraft over the enemy...the wing cellule is even weaker than that of the early Aviatik D.I series38, 138 238 fighters" which had been grounded in July 1918 by the Army Command. The 6th Army Command ordered Fik 72/J pilots to inspect and test series 92 machines stored at Pordenone. It was found that aircraft below 92.50 had been manufactured according to the old Aviatik D.I drawings.The wing cut-out was missing. When tested in a spin, the lower wing *not the short-span version as in late Aviatik-built fighters " always showed breakage." Furthermore, the quality of MAG workmanshp was defective and slipshod. Nevertheless, in the summer of 1918 Aviatik D.I (MAG) became operational in small numbers in Fliks 1/J, 6/F and 13/J on the Balkan Front and in the south Tirol Fliks 7/J, 20/J and 23/D. Flik 7/J was unique in that it was the only unit composed of MAG-buily Aviatik fighters."
Hope this helps, there is a little more but it deals with another plane.

[Angiolillo]

Thanks a lot, very kind of you!
The rudder was brought home by Aldo Finzi and belongs now to a friend of mine. It was not the single official Finzi's victory, because he shot down a two-seater behind enemy lines. We are quite curious to know more. For the moment thanks again, really!

[gustav_novak]

Hallo,

is it possible to show a picture of the rudder?
Just to see the camo.

Thank you very much in advance...

Mirko

[Angiolillo]

Here it is. Sorry for the quality. All brown. Apart from the small 92.49 code in a very rare (as far as I know) orange, on this side only.

[Fliegermann]

Agiolillo and Mirko,
Aircraft 92.01 to 92.69 were delived unpainted. Aircraft in the 92.70-92.121 (92.121 was the last 92 series delivered) were usually painted in the MAG factory camouflage of mid and late 1918. Using Aviatik D.I (MAG) 92.89 as an example, the camouflage was the wavy band pattern using Greyish-Yellow 4C6 and Dark Green 28F6. The paint was applied by brush or airbrush and use of stencils was also possible. Type B crosses without outlines were carried in six positions. source Peter Gross, et al AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN ARMY AIRCRAFT of WORLD WAR ONE page 474.
Here were some flight characteristics for Aviatik D.I (MAG) 92.18 which might shed some light on other 92 series planes. " On 10 October 1918, Flik
74/J tested aircraft fitted with reinforced wing ribs and found that at 150km/h93 mph--well below its top speed of 187km/h116mph, the upper-wing trailing edge and the lower wing vibrated so severely that '...one cannot develop trust in the aircraft.' " Gross page 350
If any interest I can copy the specifications for the Aviatik D.I (MAG) 92 Series.

[Angiolillo]

Thanks a lot!
I saw the Grosz book, thanks a lot. Any fuirther detail - as the ones you are giving - are warmly welcome!