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17 July 2012, 12:40 PM
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Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #1038
Here is another Great War monoplane that I have always thought interesting. Hopefully it is easy enough for some non-Ace experts to identify.
156.10 Dave_Kent 153.40 Varese2002 134.95 Rbailey 60.10 richard B 40.40 Aquilius 36.55 Lodzermensch 33.30 Cruze 29.58 Rod Filan 26.40 YavorD 23.70 Tork1945 22.55 Froggy 16.90 Flamingo 13.00 Breguet 10.50 matte_kudasai 10.45 GregE 10.30 Patrick 09.70 Dan-San 09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger 09.20 Rufe 08.40 JohnMacG 07.70 Berman 07.70 EdStevens 07.60 trp81 07.30 Doc 07.25 Ermeio 07.10 Colin A. Owers 06.70 Ampovandak 06.30 HoHun 06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector 06.10 joegertler 06.00 Eric Goedkoop 06.00 Old Man 06.00 Sobrien 05.80 RobW 05.70 AROTH 05.70 dpolglaze 05.60 ercoupepilot 05.30 Crimso 05.30 Der Grüne Flieger 05.20 Gilles 05.20 Maze 05.10 bshatzer 05.00 AL FORBES 05.00 Kristjanr 05.00 SCMc 05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours 04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... At and below this line, may start immediately 04.40 John McKenzie 04.30 edmondthieffry 04.00 greenknight 04.00 Luf-Rick 03.90 Brad 03.00 Catfish 03.00 Linhawk 02.50 Gregoire 02.50 Rexee 02.30 Cigogne 02.30 ckingh5 02.10 Crankcase 02.00 albatros1234 02.00 austin08 02.00 Jim 02.00 Lupodimontenero 02.00 Misa2 02.00 Rickenbaron 01.70 Kilian 01.60 airplane176 01.60 sergio_vitalio 01.50 Albatros_Ace 01.20 Ransom E. Olds 01.00 Cliff 01.00 cubsfan4life 01.00 gregorydquist 01.00 Mike Westrop 01.00 paolomiana 01.00 Peter Zambori 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 SL DIII 01.00 Tripehound 00.90 Stig Jarlevik 00.80 Machinbird 00.80 Mad Mac 00.80 tbstreet 00.80 toxisch 00.60 Sreiko 00.50 Douglas7 00.50 Martin Irvine 00.40 Johnnick 00.40 Vilkata 00.30 albapfalzd30 00.30 Miroslav Pokorny 00.30 Nieuport14 00.20 Paul_J._Fisher Previous: Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- The rules: 1. The thread title must be "Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #......" 2. The score board, link and rules must be copied to the beginning of each thread, so that we know where we are. The score board and the correct answer to the challenge must also be placed at end of each thread. 3. The completed aircraft must have been either; designed, built or have left the ground during the '14-'18 period and be identifiable by the poster. 4. The photo must show the whole aircraft - from whatever angle, or at least 2 views of a 3 view drawing (photo by preference). 5. Challenges which depict a machine already earlier presented are disqualified (always check the list at Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918* -* Breguet's Aircraft Challenge* -- when in doubt !) and the poster re-post within the same thread, the 12hours handicap beginning from that point. 6. If there is any doubt as to the eligibility of an aircraft for the challenge details should be PM'd to Breguet BEFORE the aircraft is submitted. 7. Once someone has got 5 correct answers under their belt they become an ACE. Once they become an ACE they must wait 12hrs after the posting of the new challenge before they can post an answer. 8. To be eligible for correct ID an answer must include at least one characteristic of the aircraft that helped in its identification. 9. The first person to ID the challenge correctly gets to post the next challenge. If this can not be done for any reason Breguet himself will post the next challenge. 10. If an ace gives the correct answer too early, the challenge is over, he gets no point but has to post the next one. In lieu of the fact that the "novices" have in effect been "cheated" of their "exclusive" time that next post should be a relatively easy one. Anyone repeating the correct answer at the right time gets neither a point nor the right to post the next challenge. 11. The final arbiter in relation to questions about the rules is BREGUET. 
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18 July 2012, 04:57 AM
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Dave is correct! This is a Morane-Saulnier Type P which was larger and more powerful than its predecessors, the more commonly seen Types L and LA. The Type P was introduced in 1914 and was quite an advanced design for its day. Most were used by the French air force, but some were used by the English and even the Russians as this particular example shows. It was mainly a two seater reconnaissance aircraft but because it was fast and nimble some were made as a single seat fighter configuration. It was powered by a Le Rhone 9J rotary engine. 595 of them were built.
1 point and challenge #1039 to Dave! 157.10 Dave_Kent 153.40 Varese2002 134.95 Rbailey 60.10 richard B 40.40 Aquilius 36.55 Lodzermensch 33.30 Cruze 29.58 Rod Filan 26.40 YavorD 23.70 Tork1945 22.55 Froggy 16.90 Flamingo 13.00 Breguet 10.50 matte_kudasai 10.45 GregE 10.30 Patrick 09.70 Dan-San 09.70 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger 09.20 Rufe 08.40 JohnMacG 07.70 Berman 07.70 EdStevens 07.60 trp81 07.30 Doc 07.25 Ermeio 07.10 Colin A. Owers 06.70 Ampovandak 06.30 HoHun 06.10 '14-'18aviationcollector 06.10 joegertler 06.00 Eric Goedkoop 06.00 Old Man 06.00 Sobrien 05.80 RobW 05.70 AROTH 05.70 dpolglaze 05.60 ercoupepilot 05.30 Crimso 05.30 Der Grüne Flieger 05.20 Gilles 05.20 Maze 05.10 bshatzer 05.00 AL FORBES 05.00 Kristjanr 05.00 SCMc 05.00 Tom L ......................... At and above this line, have to wait 12 hours 04.40 Ross Moorhouse ........... At and below this line, may start immediately 04.40 John McKenzie 04.30 edmondthieffry 04.00 greenknight 04.00 Luf-Rick 03.90 Brad 03.00 Catfish 03.00 Linhawk 02.50 Gregoire 02.50 Rexee 02.30 Cigogne 02.30 ckingh5 02.10 Crankcase 02.00 albatros1234 02.00 austin08 02.00 Jim 02.00 Lupodimontenero 02.00 Misa2 02.00 Rickenbaron 01.70 Kilian 01.60 airplane176 01.60 sergio_vitalio 01.50 Albatros_Ace 01.20 Ransom E. Olds 01.00 Cliff 01.00 cubsfan4life 01.00 gregorydquist 01.00 Mike Westrop 01.00 paolomiana 01.00 Peter Zambori 01.00 rammjaeger 01.00 SL DIII 01.00 Tripehound 00.90 Stig Jarlevik 00.80 Machinbird 00.80 Mad Mac 00.80 tbstreet 00.80 toxisch 00.60 Sreiko 00.50 Douglas7 00.50 Martin Irvine 00.40 Johnnick 00.40 Vilkata 00.30 albapfalzd30 00.30 Miroslav Pokorny 00.30 Nieuport14 00.20 Paul_J._Fisher |
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