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23 August 2006, 02:31 PM
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Have Goggles Will Travel!
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a Soup to Nuts WW1 Aviation Painting
Starting my fourth WW1 aviation painting. Haven't finished the other three yet, but what the heck. Here are three practice preliminary ink sketches I've made from black and white photos. As you can see by the wheels and heart placement changes, I'm not afraid to show my mistakes. Mistakes help you learn.
Can you guess my subject ace and his aeroplanes? I'm going to need lots of help with detemining colors for his a/c, uniform and medals. Any help and critiques along the process will be greatly appreciated.
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23 August 2006, 04:18 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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HI AAC, I think it's Charles Nungesser and his plane is a Nieuport (?)
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23 August 2006, 04:43 PM
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Love the ink drawing. They are great on their own.
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23 August 2006, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross_Moorhouse
Love the ink drawing. They are great on their own.
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I agree! AAC, forget the painting, those are beautiful drawings! Works of art in themselves.
Russ
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23 August 2006, 06:36 PM
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dis you best, Ruby.
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but remember that even when those who move you be Kings,
or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone.
When you stand before God, you cannot say,
"But I was told by others to do thus."
Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
This will not suffice.."
-Baldwin Four of The Baldwin Piano Company
Last edited by Scott; 24 August 2006 at 10:31 AM.
Reason: it strikes a familiar note - lost edges
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23 August 2006, 07:38 PM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AAC Cadet Leader
Can you guess my subject ace and his aeroplanes? I'm going to need lots of help with detemining colors for his a/c, uniform and medals. Any help and critiques along the process will be greatly appreciated.
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AAC - The bottom aeroplane drawing is of the Nieuport 25, N5324 - several photos in the Windsock Datafile on Nieuport Fighters Vol 2 (got my copy from Hannan's Runway, btw) http://www.hrunway.com/shop/index.ht...tml&lang=en-us . Unknown how many were ever built (no more than a handful, probably), but extant photos show it in Nungesser's familiar colors, marked as N5324 and N1895 (maybe the same machine, maybe two).
I've several photos of models and scans that I've collected on this machine, as I'm building an R/C version of it now - mostly framed up getting ready to cover in the next month or so. A good overall look of this machine is via a model completed by Jean-Pascal Maire over at www.wwi-models.org - this and the datafile should give you a good idea of the colors.
If I can send you anything on the plane, let me know - I love your drawings so far!!
Very best regards,
Lee McDuffee
the WinterHawke
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23 August 2006, 09:02 PM
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Have Goggles Will Travel!
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Thanks all for your kind replies so quickly at the start of this thread. It will probably wind up being a long thread as I imagine it will take me a month or so to make a really good completed painting of this. Here's another compositional rough sketch to get a feel for how I want to place the aeroplanes and the ace, etc.
Yes, Margaret, your keen eye knew Nungesser and one of his Nieuports when you saw them.
And Lee, yes it is his N.25 in the second drawing. I would appreciate any photo forwards you can send to help me put the correct colors to it. Thanks for the links and the offer!
Last edited by AAC Cadet Leader; 23 August 2006 at 09:24 PM.
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23 August 2006, 10:37 PM
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Have Goggles Will Travel!
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another rough for placement ideas
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23 August 2006, 10:45 PM
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Have Goggles Will Travel!
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Next: Painting out a ground or two... or three on some stretched canvases. Using acrylic for the grounds and mixing up somewhat natural colors that will be almost completely covered by the oils eventually.
two 18 x 24" ones...
...and a 24 x 48" bigun!
Last edited by Scott; 24 August 2006 at 10:33 AM.
Reason: dis is da fun part!
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24 August 2006, 06:26 AM
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Forum Ace
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Dear, work on the compo....
Basic shapes, use of contrasting shapes, point of focus.
( I sure hope someone uses the word: juxtaposition..)
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"A King may move a man, a father may claim a son,
but remember that even when those who move you be Kings,
or men of power, your soul is in your keeping alone.
When you stand before God, you cannot say,
"But I was told by others to do thus."
Or that,
"Virtue was not convenient at the time."
This will not suffice.."
-Baldwin Four of The Baldwin Piano Company
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