D.VII Double Portrait Start to Finish

[AAC Cadet Leader]

[Russell Smith]

Much better than the last one. Two things, though:
- the figure propped up on the wheel gets a little lost against the aircraft. don't know if he's supposed to be the subject or if the plane is supposed to be the subject. if its the plane, you're right on. if its the figure, you better hit the drawing table again.
- that same figure's pose (propped up on knee) bothers me a little, but thats just my preference. i think the problem that i have with it is that all of the comtemporary photos that you see tend to show the figures in more stiff, austere, formal poses. not saying they didn't relax and lean on a knee back then, but somehow, to me, it looks a little out of place.

russ

[Russell Smith]

the pose - i know what it is that bothers me. it has sort of a "y'all comeback, now, ya' hear?" feel to it.

russ

[AAC Cadet Leader]

hahahaha

[AAC Cadet Leader]

Originally Posted by Russell Smith

Much better than the last one. Two things, though:
- the figure propped up on the wheel gets a little lost against the aircraft. don't know if he's supposed to be the subject or if the plane is supposed to be the subject. if its the plane, you're right on. if its the figure, you better hit the drawing table again.

it's both - actually the pilot, the mechanic and the DVII are supposed to be the features with another (or two) portraits in the background figures.

- that same figure's pose (propped up on knee) bothers me a little, but thats just my preference. i think the problem that i have with it is that all of the comtemporary photos that you see tend to show the figures in more stiff, austere, formal poses. not saying they didn't relax and lean on a knee back then, but somehow, to me, it looks a little out of place.

actually, i'm taking the mechanic's pose against the wheel from a 1917 photo. i will draw him more convincingly in subsequent versions. am still just scribble-doodling at this stage. thanks for the feedback russ! and y'all come back now, ya hear?

[Russell Smith]

Originally Posted by AAC Cadet Leader

it's both - actually the pilot, the mechanic and the DVII are supposed to be the features with another (or two) portraits in the background figures.

its a matter of scale. the DVII is so large here that it dominates the composition. if the pilot & mechanic are supposed to have equal importance to the DVII, they won't in this one. they'll be lost. consider cropping in like the last comp. don't be afraid to lose part of the plane. you can still capture the great lines and character of the DVII without showing all of it. that way, the plane-to-figure ratio will be more balanced.

Originally Posted by AAC Cadet Leader

actually, i'm taking the mechanic's pose against the wheel from a 1917 photo. i will draw him more convincingly in subsequent versions. am still just scribble-doodling at this stage. thanks for the feedback russ! and y'all come back now, ya hear?

good 'nuff

[AAC Cadet Leader]

Originally Posted by Russell Smith

its a matter of scale. the DVII is so large here that it dominates the composition. if the pilot & mechanic are supposed to have equal importance to the DVII, they won't in this one. they'll be lost. consider cropping in like the last comp. don't be afraid to lose part of the plane. you can still capture the great lines and character of the DVII without showing all of it. that way, the plane-to-figure ratio will be more balanced.

hmmm...

[Russell Smith]

bettuh and mo' bettuh. play around with it some more. try some differnt angles. you're getting there.

russ

[Barker]

what about dale evans and roy rogers action figures?

[AchimEngels]

My vote would be for the first sketch on top of this page.

True, a lot of distraction from the main focus, but then again, on the other hand, a lot to discover....

It is coming along great! Love to see you develop all this ideas!

Cheers!

Achim