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23 September 2008, 09:17 AM
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Is this right, I can make 8000 Copies from Madonnas new CD and if i give it away with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law.
Waaauu I Love America 
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23 September 2008, 09:32 AM
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I want all Winsock Datafiles, WWI Aero, Cross & Cockade, Over the Front to download from the Aerodrome. Because if you give it away with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law.
Heeey why not it is a very cheap way for me?
To the Hell with Ray Rimell he has now go to work. irony off switch.
p.s. Sorry Ray
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23 September 2008, 10:00 AM
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It is a difference between a 1979 impossible to get article and the last issue of Windsock. Even you KlausKluge, have to agree on that.
But it is very easy, if you don't want the articles, don't ask for them.
I suppose that your anger is about the other thread regarding photos that you claim is your. It seems that the page have scans from Ebay. Can you prove that you hold the copyright, or did you just bought a copy of a photo on Ebay? Copyright also have limits regarding year. In my country, the copyright is gone after 60 year.
Olve
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23 September 2008, 11:11 AM
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Observer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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Link to Copyright Law
Here is a link U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law: Chapter 1
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Is this right, I can make 8000 Copies from Madonnas new CD and if i give it away with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law.
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Yes you can if you are willing to incurr and absorb the expense of doing it; you are within the law. But you must give it away. And cannot charge shipping and handling fees either.
When it comes to photographs; unless you physically took the photograph yourself; you do not have any copyright claim to it. Whomever took the photograph is the sole possessor of the copyright; unless they have assigned the right to another. e.g. A photographer working for a newspaper for a salary will by virtue of employment assign all rights to the newspaper he works for. This is true for most visual artists working for hire. The freelance photographer owns the rights to every picture he takes. Hence the reason for the paviratti(sp) chasing celebrities. When they sell their pictures to whomever they assign the rights to the purchaser with a written contract.
Follow the above link you can wade through the info for hours; this is why Patent Attorneys exisit and get paid well. 
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23 September 2008, 02:56 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KlausKluge
Is this right, I can make 8000 Copies from Madonnas new CD and if i give it away with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law.
Waaauu I Love America 
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People giving away their own property is not against the law. AS "xken" stated If you give 8000 copies away and you are paying for their reproduction and shipping the only one to complain will be your wallet. There would probably be more cause for you to see a pyschiatrist instead of a lawyer.
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23 September 2008, 02:59 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KlausKluge
I want all Winsock Datafiles, WWI Aero, Cross & Cockade, Over the Front to download from the Aerodrome. Because if you give it away with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law. Heeey why not it is a very cheap way for me? . . .
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The trick will be finding someone to give it all to you.
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23 September 2008, 03:07 PM
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Ace of Aces & Old Bone
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Originally Posted by xken
". . .When it comes to photographs; unless you physically took the photograph yourself; you do not have any copyright claim to it. Whomever took the photograph is the sole possessor of the copyright. . .
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Unless the photos were the possessions of a government that has surrendered during or in the cause of hostilities. Those images are usually placed in the public domain after 10 - 25 years.
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23 September 2008, 05:20 PM
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Observer
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Location: Hamburg Germany
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In Germany, Copyright exists 70 years after the death of the author.
What is the Problem to ask Peter Gray and Ian R.Star (inherit) and the publishing house.
What ist the Problem if under the articles stands, with friendly permission of Peter Gray Ian Star and SAMI
What is the problem if the The Aerodrome a good style maintains?
Or is a bad style simply the style of WWI Aircraft Fans?
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24 September 2008, 12:18 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
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I looked at my copy of Scale Models from February 1982.
On the masthead, it says, "All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced or stored in a retrieval system by any means without the permission of the publisher."
The publisher is Model and Allied Publications, Ltd., (MAP) which has gone out of business.
It's possible that somebody bought the copyright and holds it, but you'd have to do some research.
Technically it would be illegal to reproduce the articles in any way, but the rights owner would have to prove that by copying the material and giving it to someone else, you deprived him of sales. Since the magazine is no longer available, that argument would be hard to make in a court of law. Still, I wouldn't post the articles anywhere on the Internet unless I got permission from the rights owner.
As for the postcards, the person who owns them today has the copyright over the individual card in question, but he doesn't own the copyright to every single copy of that card. There are many photos in the Imperial War Museum, for example, that are available on postcards.
If Mr. X was the photographer and died more than 70 years ago, the copyright has expired, so you can publish the image if you find an original postcard or photo yourself. The Imperial War Museum owns the copyright to the individual original photo they have, and you can't reproduce an image of that particular photo without their permission, but if you find the same image in a flea market, you can do whatever you want with it.
If John makes a scan of an old postcard and puts it on eBay, and Bill downloads the scan, and then Hans buys the actual postcard, Hans now owns the copyright of that individual postcard.
However, since Bill downloaded the scan before Hans bought the postcard, Bill can do whatever he wants with that particular downloaded scan. Hans does not own the copyright of the scan. He only owns the copyright of the individual paper postcard in his collection. The person who owns the copyright of the scan is John, but if he doesn't care what Bill does with the scan, there's nothing Hans can do.
Now, if Hans makes a new scan of his postcard and puts it on the Internet, and Bill downloads it, Hans owns the copyright of this scan, so he can demand that Bill not use it. However, it would be almost impossible to file a lawsuit over this.
The only people who can complain about the use of scans are the people who made them. If someone isn't using the scans to make money, there's nothing the scan owner can do except ask for the person to take them down.
I write books, so I've had to research all of this. These copyright rules apply only to material in the public domain, not material produced by someone who is still alive.
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24 September 2008, 02:06 AM
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Thanks Tom.
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