Old Scale models articles

odybvig · 1 August 2008, 11:41 AM

Hello guys

During clean up in my old paper chaos, I found a binder with some old Scale Models articles from 1979.

These ones:

Albatros two-seaters of world war I
No 01 Albatros B I
No 02 Albatros B II
No 05 Albatros CIII
No 06 Albatros CV/I6
No 07 Albatros CV/I7
No 08 Albatros CVII
No 09 Albatros CIX
No 11 Albatros CXII
No 12 Albatros CXV
No 13 Albatros JI

German Fighters of WW1
Fokker DVIII
Siemens Schukert DI / III / IV
Halberstadt CL II

Neuport Classic
No 2 Nieuport 10
No 4 Nieuport 12
No 5 Nieuport 17
No 6 Nieuport 27
No 7 Nieuport 28

Spad VII

Would it be legal (or moral) to scan these and share with those of you that would be interested in these old papers, or should I just forget the hole thing

Here is a test of one of the articles:
http://www.luftwaffe.no/Albatros No 01 - BI.pdf

Best from Norway
Olve

MerlinV · 1 August 2008, 05:12 PM

I know for a fact that Brad Cancian will be interested in the Albatros JI.
Unfortuntely, I think that you will find that these are protected by copywrite laws in various jurestictions. Ian Stair is going to be the holder of the rights to the drawings at the very least. And the photos and text are going to be owned by the publishers of the magazine (I don't think that this magazine is still published, but whoever the publisher was (Traplet?), will undoubtedly hve been bought out by some one else, who will have in turn purchased the rights to all past publications).
It is a shame, because what you have there is a gold mine.

You could protect your self from litigation by obtaining permission from Ian Stair and or the publisher to disseminate the material, but I reckon that your chances of obtaining it are slim.

Others will know more.

Cheers,

Hugh

Brad Cancian · 2 August 2008, 12:50 AM

Greetings Olve,

Any chance of scanning the articles and then sending them to whoever is interested via e-mail? Kinda like "lending out the magazine to a friend"?

BC

mike celeskey · 2 August 2008, 07:29 AM

When the magazines were sold they were put in the "public domain" to be purchased, read, thrown away, wrap a fish, etc...Any info contained in the magazine could be accessed by anyone. That being said, it is not illegal to share the info for "personal use only". So, if you have a mind to scan the articles, I would be really interested in obtaining them.
Just my 2cents.
Mike

Oiram · 2 August 2008, 09:54 AM

I am of the same opinion as Mike. Reference material for some of these types is extremely difficult to come by ... if you do decide to scan and share the articles I would be very grateful.

Mario

odybvig · 3 August 2008, 07:13 AM

I have now scanned the Albatros files. I anyone want to borrow the file for a few days, give me a mail

Best from Norway
Olve Dybvig
odybvig@online.no

PS: does anyone have the missing Albatros articles ?

KlausKluge · 23 September 2008, 03:04 AM

Hallo Olve,

don't you have to carry anything own too with?

Do you must the work of others without permission republishing.

StephenLawson · 23 September 2008, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MerlinV

". . .Ian Stair is going to be the holder of the rights to the drawings at the very least. And the photos and text are going to be owned by the publishers of the magazine . . .You could protect your self from litigation by obtaining permission from Ian Stair and or the publisher to disseminate the material, but I reckon that your chances of obtaining it are slim. Others will know more. Cheers, Hugh

Gentle Folk. Mr. Ian Stair passed away in Aug. 2005. Also as long as it is not done for profit odybvig can do with them what he will. While Ray Rimell does not want any of his materials put in a storage system for proliferation the Old Scale Models (purchased by SAMI?) made no such condition of use. Giving scans away to friends is not a crime.

KlausKluge · 23 September 2008, 05:12 AM

8425 Friends we have

xken · 23 September 2008, 05:54 AM

Copyright law is intended to protect the income stream of the artist; etc. If you "give away" with no intent to "sell for profit" the work of another you are OK and clear of copyright law.

Many of the existing U.S. laws were rewritten in the late 70's and 80's to address the emerging computer technology. One no longer is required to add the copyright symbol or in fact their name; the mere taking of; or creating an image is enough for copyright authorship. Where the law now gets sticky is proving you were first.

It also gets real sticky on what is called "derivitave products" from looking at a piece of artwork and being inspired to create another. If the original author can prove that the new work was inspired by his; he is entitled to a piece of the income stream generated by new piece. Even if the new piece is different and original by another artist.

Companies also must defend their ownership or lose their rights to it by not prosecuting offenders. Both Disney and Harley-Davidson are prime examples of this.

For all the nitty gritty details just Goggle U.S. Patent Office.