SE-5a color...

EricGoedkoop · 27 July 2005, 12:42 PM

Is it possible that the port lower wing aileron is a different color than the wing? I don't think it's deflected enough to account for the difference in tone, considering the light.

This machine was involved in a crash of unknown severity, and we don't know what happened to it after or the date of the this photo. Is it possible that it was repaired and most of the airframe was recovered in the field after the crash but some components - metal cowling panels and that aileron - were not damaged and remained in their original factory finish?

Shooting in the dark . . .

greenknight · 28 July 2005, 08:27 AM

I've wondered the same thing Eric. I could be convinced that the aileron and maybe even the horizontal stab. were in PC 10 or 12. Certainly some parts around the nose have dark paint on them.

I wonder the following is the same scene just viewed from a different location:
http://www.winnipegfalcons.com/egypt...e/hangers1.jpg
Too bad the shot isn't clearer/closer.

What do you make of the possibly CDL Nie. 17 (picture linked in my previous post)?

EricGoedkoop · 28 July 2005, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenknight

I wonder the following is the same scene just viewed from a different location:
http://www.winnipegfalcons.com/egypt...e/hangers1.jpg
Too bad the shot isn't clearer/closer.

Quite possibly the same machine, at least.

Quote:

What do you make of the possibly CDL Nie. 17 (picture linked in my previous post)?

I'm tempted to say painted white on this one - look at the fuselage stitching. Same color as the fuse, as opposed to the SE where it shows so much darker.

The Nieuport is also unarmed, which indicates that it's another training machine. We're looking at pictures of a school here; maybe the crates were painted white to make them more visible and help avoid accidents.

EricGoedkoop · 28 July 2005, 06:38 PM

Two more things I noticed on that Nieuport photo:

1) I think the top wing might be a different and darker color than the fuse.

2) There are two aeroplanes behind the Nieuport that also appear to be in an overall light finish. I think the double-bay machine on the left might be an Avro 504. There not enough showing of the one on the right for me to even guess.

So we have at least three machines (the second background plane in the Nieuport photo might be the SE, for all I can tell) showing a similar, mostly white or light-colored finish.

John Masters · 29 July 2005, 10:27 PM

One of the background planes looks like a Pup.

John

Ross_Moorhouse · 1 August 2005, 04:12 PM

You are right Eric, I should have read this thread last night instead of posting the Nie.17 pic in a new thread.

Now I had not thought of white. But D!OH as they are training aircraft..... why not these as well.

Ross_Moorhouse · 1 August 2005, 04:15 PM

Was the cowling on the Nie.17 painted? Looking at the pic of it in this thread I can't seem to see any shine on the cowling to indicate bare metal.

Dan_San_Abbott · 2 August 2005, 12:15 PM

gentlemen:
The Nieuport and the S.E.5a appear to be painted white.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

JohnFitz · 2 August 2005, 03:25 PM

Guys, Any consideration that the light colored SE5 may have been painted the "AMA doping" scheme? I have the WW1 British Aeroplane Colors and Markings book by Bruce Robertson and it shows this light gray almost white overall color. BTW the aleron and elevator look to be a darker color on the SE5.

JohnFitz

Ross_Moorhouse · 2 August 2005, 03:42 PM

Seeing as the SE5a in the pic is a training plane it would have had some rough handling. So the control surfaces may have been replaced due to student piolt errors.