MVR's Alb DII White nose ring, Black outlined?

Southside Bucky · 8 August 2005, 07:54 AM

Well, whad'ya know! I think I've just made a small but significant contribution to WW1 aviation research...Makes me feel all warm inside!

Shame we can't post those two photo's here. (because of copyright laws) I spent a good few hours yesterday looking for 'em online, but I knew it was a forlorn hope.

Dan San. I think this also strengthens your argument for saying that all Albatros DII fuselages were light coloured.

All the best.

Bucky.

Dan_San_Abbott · 8 August 2005, 04:34 PM

Southside Bucky:
I went to the photos in "RICHTHOFEN" to see what you were looking at, but primarily to see the contrast of the white band on the grey cowling. :Lo and behold, black borders. Then I understood your persistance in sticking with the black borders. When I did my color drawing of D.491/16 I had not looked at those two photos, I had used other photos as reference for the painting.
I got to give it to you Bucky, thank you for opening my eyes.
Blue Skies,
Dan-San

Alex Smart · 13 August 2005, 02:19 PM

Hello,

Have just scanned through this thread, so may not have read it correctly.

Here goes, the Photo of RVR's D. V in which he was wounded .

Photo page 70 of Aeroplane March 2000.

Does seem to my eyes to showsome sort of lettering ahead of the right side fuselage cross. Could it be "Ri" ?

The a/c also shows what I understand to be a red nose and prop hub. The tail section also looks the same colour.

Alex

RAGIII · 9 September 2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shaneweier

DSA may still be quite correct about the absence of the black edging.

Edge effect (also called adjacency effect) caused by inadequate agitation in the developer will cause a dark line along the edge of a white object even with modern films and developers. It's common enough in WW1 era plates for period photos to be used in university lectures on photography - which is where I learned about it 25 years ago.

It's yet another reason why two photos of the same subject can look different - which is half the fun in this area...

Shane

After a long lapse I just noted your response! I guess this effect is what I originally termed "Optical Illusion". I wonder if our old friend Ira made any good copies while digging through the Ferko files at the University collection? I will have to ask. Seems it could be either way, I still have to opt for no outline.
RAGIII