Richtofen's 102 /17 color scheme?

RED BARON RETURNS · 26 October 2005, 03:54 PM

WELL I ASKED AROUND AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE CUTTING EDGE DECALS HAVE A COLOR PRINT OUT OF ALL OF MVR FOKKER TRI PLANE(BRAND NEW THEY EVEN HAVE A LOTHER RICHTHOFEN DECAL).TRY THE WEB SITE AT WWW.METEORPROD.COM THEY WILL BE OF GREAT HELP.EVEN AFTER GOING THERE IT STILL WILL BE HOTLY DISCUSSED.

Taz · 26 October 2005, 06:20 PM

Red Baron- I thought Brown or an Australian gunner got you back in April a few years back. No red upper wing on 102/17.

Hans- Are you having fun yet? Our problem is we have not used a big enough club, I guess.

VonGrube- Why not pick out a nice MvR color scheme like 127/17 or 425/17 documented in at least 20 sources? F.I 102/17 and F.I 103/17 still have disputed color schemes on everything except the rudder and struts and the bottom of some (but not all) parts. If F.I 102/17 had any red paint (disputed), it was only the cowl and wheel covers. 152/17 was painted very similar to 127/17 until its museum time, just like RagIII stated. You do not have to read about the peeling red paint, you can see it in period photographs. I built a 1/28 Revell kit in 1959 with red paint, white fields around all crosses and rudder and an aluminum cowl. My book said that was correct. Times change.

To quote my friend Greg VanWyngarden, there are over 300 Triplanes MvR did not fly and there are beautiful color schemes on dozens of those which are perfectly documented. Send me an e-mail at tphillips@schaferalb.com and I will send you photos of two or three from Jasta 19 which are absolutely beautiful and authentic. If you want a different red Dr.I, try Raben's Jasta 18 red and white bird which was beautiful and well documented. Only difference is he had 4 kills and MvR had a few more.

Hans- Time for another Weissen Bier.

Taz
Terry Phillips

RED BARON RETURNS · 26 October 2005, 06:49 PM

HELLO TAZ,
BROWN MISSED HIS SHOT AND THE GUNNERS HAD TOO MANY BIERS (LOL).SO HERE I RETURN.I HAVE ONLY SEEN ONE COLOR MODEL PRINT WITH A 102/17 WITH A RED TOP WIGN THE OTHERS ARE LIKE YOU SAID WITH A RED COWL AND WHEEL COVERS.CHECK OUT THE WWW.METEORPROD.COM SITE THEY HAVE THE LATEST COLOR CHART ON MVR.BUT AGAIN HOW CAN WE ALL BE SURE ABOUT ANY OF THIS SINCE ALL THE PICS ARE B/W ALL I KNOW IS I LOVE THE RED FOKKER TRIPLANE 425/17 (EVEN THIS ONE PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT THE MARKINGS ON THAT PLANE) IT'S THE BEST ONE NEXT TO

WERNER VOSS FOKKER F1 102/17 IN WHICH TIM WEST DID A GREAT 3D PIC OF ONE.
LATER DAYS,
JEP
THE RED BARON

P.S. I WAS JUST THINKING THE FOKKER DR1 IN THE GREAT WALDO PEPPER WAS A COOL LOOKING TRI-PLANE TOO.

Tim West · 26 October 2005, 08:12 PM

I just want to mention that there are a few people that feel Fok.152/17 had a "red" turtle deck........just like 127/17..

The red overpaint extended almost up to the cockpit.

Hans · 27 October 2005, 02:22 AM

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Time for another Weissen Bier.

Prost, Terry!

RED BARON RETURNS · 27 October 2005, 09:50 AM

Han's,
Just Looking At That Bier Is Making Me Thristy Humm.
Later Days,
Jep
Red Baron

Dan_San_Abbott · 27 October 2005, 06:42 PM

I guess I'm out of the loop??
Blue skies,
Dan

Taz · 28 October 2005, 07:38 AM

Dan, Old Friend- You are never out of the loop. I know precisely what you think were 102/17's colors and quote you widely. I have four paintings and two models matching what you believe exactly. But others believe differently and we will just have to keep digging until we have conclusive proof one way or the other. May not happen. Have to believe there are arrival photos of 102/103/17 at Marckebecke which have not surfaced or departure photos from Schweringen. Sure hope so. My last two F.I 102/17 photos were discovered only two years ago, thanks to Greg VanWyngarden, and we learned quite a bit from those. Issue may outlive both of us.

Taz
Terry Phillips

RED BARON RETURNS · 28 October 2005, 11:25 AM

Taz,
Thanks For The Info On The 102/17 Now I Need To Build Another One With The Right Colors.it Be Safe To Say That I Could Paint It Like Tim West's 103/17 Voss Fokker And Paint The Cowl Red With Red Wheel Covers Too.
Later Days,
Jep
Red Baron

Taz · 28 October 2005, 12:44 PM

Jep- That would definitely be one of the possibilities for 102/17, and an attractive one at that. People will argue with you but nobody can prove you are wrong. The paint on 102/17's cowling was so thin, you can see the engine turning through it. See Summer OTF for more details.

Taz
Terry Phillips