Most Strangest Markings of the 1914-1918 War?

[LedZepplane]

Originally Posted by drIace

For "strange" -- how 'bout Capt Harry S. Gwinne of 3rd Aerial Instruction Center, the "Flying Fish" (Nieuport 24bis) at Issoudin, France, 1918


Creepy- C. Nungesser's Nieuports-- skul 7 crossbones and coffin on black heart

I'm not familiar with Gwinne "flying fish" Nieuport 24bis. Sounds interesting.

GrzeM,
Yep, Brumowski's Albatros D.III is real a creeper, and I wonder how the sworls where applied?

Danny

[Pat Daily]

I thought I read somewhere that the Austro-Hungarian aircraft were sometimes covered with a swirl printed fabric and that they were not painted on. I realize that I am getting old and memories fade, but I think I read it in a book (Martin O'Conner's book perhaps).

Pat Daily

[LedZepplane]

Originally Posted by Pat Daily

I thought I read somewhere that the Austro-Hungarian aircraft were sometimes covered with a swirl printed fabric and that they were not painted on. I realize that I am getting old and memories fade, but I think I read it in a book (Martin O'Conner's book perhaps).

Pat Daily

Let me tell ya, Pat...I just hit middle-age and I already have trouble remembering what day it is.
The swirl pattern looks to complicated to have been painted by hand on such a wide scale, so it would make sense that it would be printed fabric. I sure would hate to replicate that on a tiny model.

Danny

The sworls which look like a psychedelic wave pattern was a printed fabric that covered some series 153 and 253 Oeffag Albatros D.III. It appeared on some of the planes flown by the 7th Squadron (Koscziuszko) of the newly formed Polish AF in 1918 and the following Polish-Soviet war. It also appeared on other Polish Oeffag Albatros planes.

The small sworls on Brumowskis D.III were painted on by hand with a brush or a rag. Apparently Brumowski introduced this pattern as I have seen it being called "Brumowski pattern". It was introduced over a GREEN base colour on upper wings, tailplanes and upper fuselage. Brumowski's plane is different since the whole plane is covered on a red base coat.

A discussion of these patterns is available in the Windsock datafile on the Oeffag Albatros D.III.

There used to be a description of this pattern on the MisterKit homepage but I think that it has been removed.

/Magnus

[buzz1941]

The sworl pattern is available as decal from various sources

[Troy Raines]

Does being older than dirt count? I am, maybe that's why I didn't remember I have both O'Conner's book and the Datafile. That "fishy" Nieuport 24bis can be seen in the old Profile publication and I think (there goes that memory thing) in one of the datafiles but I can't remember which one. Guess I'm dummer than dirt too, if I did this at home I could look stuff up and give out solid info instead of "I think". Me go home now, watch TV.
T-roy

[GrzeM]

Originally Posted by Troy Raines

GrzeM, Austrian sworl camo is way cool. I'm not that up on it, was it painted on or a print like the German pattern fabrics? And I was totally unaware that the Brumowski bird had yellow sworls over the basic red. Guess I need to go back and read what I have on the AH aircraft.

As it was already written, "carpet-like" colourful sworl pattern was printed, but the tiny yellow sworls on Brumowski's bird were hand-painted.

Brumowski had several planes, many of them were red (he was impressed by Richthoffen and even spent some time on the Western Front examining Red Baron's tactics), and some of them additionally covered with these sworls.

Look here:
http://www.feudal.cz/html/albatrosy_...fag__v_bar.htm
http://www.feudal.cz/html/albatrosy_...ag__v_bar1.htm
http://www.feudal.cz/html/albatrosy_...ag__v_bar2.htm

Cheers!
G.

[GrzeM]

And here is my (unfinished) attempt to build the model of this plane:






Decals are excellent FCM from Brazil (Felipe Canuto Miranda) which are normally applied wet deacls, but have one unique feature: after application you are able to remove the clear film (decal carrier) from the model, leaving only the fine, thin print. It looks much better than normal decal, and is perfect for such things like these sworls, which are covering big surfaces of the model, often complicated and three-dimensional. It also prevents build-up of the decals if you are applying one decal over another eg. crosses over the sworls or in the places where two pieces of the sworl decal meet.

Cheers!
G.

[Troy Raines]

Nice build, GrezM. Interesting decals, I'll look for them here in the USA. Never thought much about Brumowski's bird (just another red airplane you know?) but what I have learned from you is really sharp. Just might have to add it to the list, if I ever start building again. That is if your model is in 1/48 scale? If it's in 1/72 scale I'll just face in your direction twice a day and bow. Please post pictures of the finished model.
T-roy

[rabu]

I've always liked Boyau's serpent along with Ruston's Camel with the radiating feathers like patterns.