Blood red Triplane.

alan giles · 19 April 2006, 04:59 AM

The time-honoured reference for ''a certain fighter's'' aircraft is 'blood red'. Would that have been venal or arterial?

Barker · 19 April 2006, 06:33 AM

Mid to dark grey.

RAGIII · 19 April 2006, 04:31 PM

You probably won't get many responses as most here that are veterans have discussed this at length in many previous threads. You can't go wrong on this! Anywhere from a "Bright Red" to "Blood Red" has been quoted. Pics of the Original very old..... fabric tend to show a darker red. Some contend this is due to aging of the sample and that the fresh color was brighter.
Note to administration: Couldn't we have a "Sticky" Thread for the following with Links to the pertinent previous threads:
1.MvRs Triplanes, including , discussions on shade, overall color,425/17, 477/17,127/17, etc.
2. Fokker F1 102/17 and F1 103/17 colors etc.( Including Voss cowl color )discussions
If this is not possible then my further advice to the poster of this question is to use the search engine on this forum! Plenty of previous discussion( put politely) on MvRs aircraft. IHTH,
RAGIII

TomVrille · 19 April 2006, 09:06 PM

The short answer to your question is venal.

The following excerpt from Cross and Cockade(U.S.) Vol.2, No.4, 1961 may be of interest. The passage is part of an interview with 1/Lt Bennett Oliver, who reported to 84 Squadron at Bertangles on the day of MvR's funeral. Lt Oliver stated:

"I had a small piece of the fabric from Richthofen's fuselage (dark red - about the color of veinous blood), but this was unfortunately lifted from me during a sojourn in Paris. Most of the illustrations that I have seen of the Baron's airplane are too light in color."

alan giles · 20 April 2006, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the replies. I would be surprised if it hadn't been discussed at length,but I'm a recent arrival. Actually I'm happy with Polly Scale's RLM 23 over Fokker factory finish.

Dan_San_Abbott · 20 April 2006, 11:23 AM

Alan Giles:
To have contemporary description by Lt.Bim Oliver define the color of MvR's Fok.DR.I as veinous blood red confirms the dark red color. My piece of the fabric from MvR's Fok.DR.I 425/17 was a dark red 10D/E8. It is now in the Army Air Museum at Fort Gunther, Alabama.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Bookmaker · 20 April 2006, 08:00 PM

Dan-San, Just a minor correction to your last post. The Army Air Museum is at Ft. RUCKER between Ozark and Enterprise, Alabama.

I enjoy visiting there (about an hour and a half away). They have a great collection of WW I era planes. Camel, Nieuport 28, Fokker E.V (wrong wing color

), Se 5A, BE2C and a Jenny I believe.

Dale

Dan_San_Abbott · 22 April 2006, 06:46 PM

Bookmaker:
Thank you for the correction. I sat here for 15-20 minutes trying to remember the name, drew a complete blank.
The five color on the fuselage on the Fok.E.V is wrong. I told that to Roger Freeman, his answer was who knows.
I understand the U.S.Army did real good job on this collection.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Bookmaker · 23 April 2006, 08:21 PM

Dan-San, I was informed about the 5 color pattern by Glenn Torence. I didn't even realize it was 5 rather than 4 color, until he brought it to my attention. I looked at my photos and sure enough it is 5.

It still looks great and was my inspiration to replicate Fok. E.V 143/18. I am however, planning to use the colors and markings you provided me a while back. The MFJ 2 colors really set it apart.

Dale