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Old 22 May 2006, 09:56 PM #1 (permalink)
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William Barker's DVII race #50

Hello all, I am looking for as much info on this aircraft as I can get for a future model project. I have 3 photos of this a/c. One is on page 41 of Squadron's DVII in action, one from the Canadian Aviation museum and one from Dan Dempsey's " ATradition of Excellence"-about Canada's airshow history. Information I am looking for concerns the lack on Ser# on the fuselage (who made the darn thing) and what was the lozenge scheme and possible colors of the engine panels. Looks like a great subject for modelling, but I'm such a rookie when it comes to identifying D7s

Anyone got any better pics of this a/c or any info is greatly apppreciated

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Hello all, I am looking for as much info on this aircraft as I can get for a future model project. I have 3 photos of this a/c. One is on page 41 of Squadron's DVII in action, one from the Canadian Aviation museum and one from Dan Dempsey's " ATradition of Excellence"-about Canada's airshow history. Information I am looking for concerns the lack on Ser# on the fuselage (who made the darn thing) and what was the lozenge scheme and possible colors of the engine panels. Looks like a great subject for modelling, but I'm such a rookie when it comes to identifying D7s

Anyone got any better pics of this a/c or any info is greatly apppreciated

Tony
This is a very late war production of an Fok. D.VII (OAW) type with a 180hp Mercedes D.IIIaü (note the standup air pump in the first photo) Though I wish I could see the upper surface of the top wing better. It may be a replacement item. The fuselage appears to be in 5 colour lozenge while the upper surface of the lower wing looks like it has a thin -translucent- overpainting..
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Thanks Stephen, I suspected you would be the first to reply. On pic#2 do I detect a remnant of a cross on the bottom of the left aileron. Are the ailerons interchageable like that??? How does anyone account for the lack of a Ser# on the fuselage side??? Does the repair on the #50 have anything to do with that?? I'm assuming the engine panels would be green with purple polygons as in the color plate in 'In Action" of a British machine.

Again, if anyone could shed more light on this particular craft, I'm all ears (and a bit of nose)

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Thanks Stephen, I suspected you would be the first to reply. On pic#2 do I detect a remnant of a cross on the bottom of the left aileron. Are the ailerons interchageable like that??? How does anyone account for the lack of a Ser# on the fuselage side??? Does the repair on the #50 have anything to do with that?? I'm assuming the engine panels would be green with purple polygons as in the color plate in 'In Action" of a British machine.

Again, if anyone could shed more light on this particular craft, I'm all ears (and a bit of nose)

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No. the ailerons were not formed to be interchangable one side to another. Not sure why the cross would wrap around the underside unless some one just got confused or drunk when painting the original. The lack of serial number is easy to understand. Some Fokker D.VII were awaiting acceptance in the depots at the war's end and simply never had the military reich plate or serials applied. If this is one is not certain. It could have simply been sanded off and revarnished. The number "50" is the race identity number assigned to that machine. Like you see on modern racing ot rodeo contestants. From the factory These types of OAW machines had a base colour of dk. green with mauve patches. Mauve is a more pinkish hue of purple.
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Thanks again Stephen, I have on order- "Barker VC" from Amazon, it may shed more light on the subject.

The search for more pics-especially of the wings and stbd side, goes on.

Then to the modelling desk and sand down those wing ribs of the Revell 1/72 DVII

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