Nieuport picture

tkelly · 20 July 2006, 06:49 AM

I'm sure this has been posted before, but it is so cool! It is new to me so I thought I would post it for those who missed the first time around.
Tim

snipe · 20 July 2006, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tkelly

I'm sure this has been posted before, but it is so cool! It is new to me so I thought I would post it for those who missed the first time around.
Tim

Here's another.

Cliff · 23 July 2006, 10:58 AM

Does a black and white photo of this aircraft #940 exist???
It would be very useful to compare the images.

Cliff

gilles · 24 July 2006, 07:23 AM

Hello

This is a picture of Jean Chaput and the Nieuport 11 he used between april and july 1916 at N31.
I know one b&w picture of this aircraft but it was published in a quite small size in a magazine.
If you compare with the autochrome, the brown is very slightly lighter than the dark green.
If you don't know the color picture, you could easily miss the 2 darker shades and think that this aircraft is painted only 2-tones (like others Nieuport 11, 16 and early 17 are usually illustrated

)

27 July 2006, 05:19 PM

Gilles,

This is news to me that N.11s had three color camo, not two. Do you have any other information regarding this?

Jim

mindphaser · 31 July 2006, 01:26 PM

I would like to use this thread to aks for photos of Nieuport 11 cocpit. Has someone good photos of this part of Nieu? I have only several pictures of very low quality and it looks that Nieuport 11 hasen't instrument panel. That's correct or not?

Bookmaker · 1 August 2006, 06:55 PM

You are correct, the Nieuport 11 and 17, that I know of had, very few instruments and they were mounted to fuselage frame tubes in the cockpit area. No panel.

Dale

2 August 2006, 02:11 AM

I enclose a stripped down pic of a Nieuport 11 cockpit

Looks very cramped in there!

mindphaser · 2 August 2006, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Britace

I enclose a stripped down pic of a Nieuport 11 cockpit

Looks very cramped in there!

Thank you very much

gilles · 5 August 2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JimDrissell

Gilles,

This is news to me that N.11s had three color camo, not two. Do you have any other information regarding this?

Jim

Hello Jim

I know that most (if not all) reference talks about early Nieuports 2 color camo.
Indeed, the pictures always show one dark and one light shade of grey.
They are variously described as brown/green or light and dark greens.
I guess the brown interpretation comes from WW1 descriptions.
The brown is usually illustrated as dark chocolate brown but it is sometimes called more precisely bistre wich is an orange-brown (compare the brown with the rudder red on the picture).
The dark green/light green theory may came from preserved samples of fabric, but these were cut from the rear of the fuselage, to collect squadron insignias. On Chaput's aircraft, the rear fuselage has only 2 shades of green.

So, in my opinion, it is quite possible that these Nieuports were painted with brown and greens so the 2 greens and brown+green theories would not be conflicting.
Besides that, there is this genuine color picture and Nieuport #940, in black & white, shows only 2 shades.
There is another color picture of a Nieuport (a Belgian one at Buc airfield near Paris). I have only seen a stamp sized picture of this one (copyright

) but it has definitely a 3 color camo.

It's only my opinion but I think there are more evidences for the 3 color camo than for the 2 color one.

Gilles