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Old 1 September 2006, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need Help with Nieuport 11 markings...see picture

was wondering if someone can give me some clarification on the Eduard Nieuport 11. It shows the edges AND underside of the main wings as Aluminum and the rear horizontal stabs as Clear Doped Linen. Is this correct?

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Old 3 September 2006, 05:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There was the same question with ex-TOKO Nieport 11/16
http://avia-hobby.ru/model/Nie11_EastEx/pic/inst.jpg
There was no references for the A (silver or linen). C and E are green and braun.
I'll wait for an unswer to.
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Old 3 September 2006, 05:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Rob358!

I do not have my references handy, but IIRC, the experts are quite sure, that there never were aluminum dope on Nieuport 11. The aluminum dope came as standart in the Summer 1916. Nieuport 17 was already in production then instead of Nieuport 11.

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Old 3 September 2006, 06:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nieuport 11

Some Nieuport 16's were also dopped silver. Very difficult to tell the difference between the 11 and 16 unless you see the larger engine in the 16.
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Thanks a lot, gentelmen!
And what is your oppinion about cocardes on the upper surfaces. The pic of the Nie I have is very bad.
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N11/16 roundels

Nils, According to JM Bruce, Nieuport fighters, The French did not use roundels on the top surface of camo'd machines. Hope that helps.
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Greetings all;

Consider the rib tape. Since rib tapes were basically fabric sewn and varnished onto ribs or leading / trailing edges of wooden structures, why would you paint them? These items were probably dyed or treated before application.

The fabric covering the airframe was aluminum doped after being tacked inplace on the framework.

For rib tapes to be aluminum doped wouldn't they have to be doped before they were applied? Folding the dried doped edges over to attach them to the wing would crack and split the rib tape doped surface?
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One further note have you thought of trying the Nieuport Builders Group?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nieuport_Builders/
They seem to be a reasonable group of people.
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