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16 December 2006, 08:49 AM
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Stephen- Thanks. It is always possible to make errors, even when working with primary sources, so it is nice to have all the eyes possible looking for the answer.
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16 December 2006, 03:02 PM
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zinc oxide & lead white
Hey all,
Small technicalities but of some use, both zinc oxide & lead white are in fact translucent white paints - lead white very much so. Lead white when exposed to UV will gradually take on a yellowish hue. Overpainting would increase opacity but then How much paint could linen take? |
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16 December 2006, 09:24 PM
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austin- Thanks for the input. Some of the light paints actually were very opaque (probably not the two you mentioned) so have to be very careful on conclusions. The light blue used on the bottom of Fokker Dr.Is, for example, even covered up the olive streaking when it was returned as a border on fuselages and horizontal tailplanes, with no trace of the streaking showing through. The Pfalz Eindeckers look to me like they have something on the fabric besides just bleached fabric and clear dope. Even white bedsheets are dyed and not just bleached fabric. Your comments support that premise and are evidence, along with Stephen's comments that portions were indeed painted, that I am not completely out to lunch, maybe just out for brunch.
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16 December 2006, 09:27 PM
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An early Fok. Eindecker
I attach the following scan for consideration by the Forum on the question of the finish of Fokker monoplanes (as compared with, for instance, the Pfalz under consideration in this thread).
Unfortunately, I only have a photocopy of the original, but I think the image is still of sifficient resolution to be insstructive. The machine was captured by the French was on exhibit at, if I remember correctly, the Tuilleries in early '16?. Again, if memory serves, the image, or a similar one, was published in both Aeronautics and, I believe, in l'Aerophile. Signing off, |
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29 December 2006, 10:16 PM
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Bleached or unbleached.
Taz:
The Pfalz E.-EVI were covered with bleached linen, white in color. White bed sheets are are bleached cotton. Fokker used unbleached linen which was beige (light brown) in color. The photo of the Fok.A.I(M8) clearly shows how dark the unbleached linen was. The rule is: If it is white and translucent, it is bleached. There is a photo of a Pfalz E.III covered with unbleached linen fabric on page 20 of Jack Herris' "Pfalz Aircraft od World War I" Happy New Year, Dan |
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