The Aerodrome Home Page
Aces of WWI
Aircraft of WWI
Books and Film
The Aerodrome Forum
Sign the Guestbook
Help
Links to Other Sites
Medals and Decorations
The Aerodrome News
Search The Aerodrome
Today in History
The Aerodrome Forum


Go Back   The Aerodrome Forum > WWI Aviation > Aircraft > Camouflage and Markings


Camouflage and Markings Topics related to the camouflage and markings of WWI aircraft


Welcome to The Aerodrome Forum, an online community where you can discuss WWI aviation with thousands of other members from around the world. To gain full access to the Forum you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:
  • Post messages and search the Forum

  • Privately communicate with other members

  • Participate in live chat sessions other members

  • View images by talented aviation artists in our Gallery

  • Buy, sell or trade items in our Classified Ads
All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 21 March 2007, 04:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
Observer
 
Jurgen Fliegler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Greece mostly
Posts: 33
 
Wink Paint brushed or sprayed ?

Hi everyone,
I have seen some photos of camouflaged WW1 aircraft that show a smooth blending between the colours. Is it a result of airbrush, or is it because of the poor quality of the photos? So far, I thought that aircraft of that era were painted by hand, using brushes (except, of course the cases of printed patterns). Did they use both technics? If yes, since when? And how did they paint national insignia in the factory? I have also seen a photo of two lady-workers painting british roundels on a wing in a factory, and they used compass and brushes. But I don't know the exact year of the photo, so maybe this changed in a later time. And what did the French - Germans - Austrians - Italians do in this case?
Jurgen Fliegler is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old 21 March 2007, 01:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
Forum Ace
 
Sreiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Serbia
Posts: 2,314
 

My Gallery
Not complete sure but first airbrush was manufactured in 1894... On this forum was once before placed link to the site of Siemens company and there was able to see crystal clear images of their fighter in manufacture. As I could note this is spray work.
__________________
Srecko Bradic
Owner: www.Letletlet-warplanes.com
Owner: www.Letletlet-warplanes.com/forum
Owner: www.sreckobradic.com
Email: srecko.warplane@gmail.com
Skype: sreckobradic
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/LetLet...s/308234397758
Sreiko is offline  
Old 21 March 2007, 02:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
Der Falke von Ruritania
 
Romani's Avatar
Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Above the trenches
Posts: 1,421
 
Jurgen, wich aircraft do you refer to?

I was hoping somebody more knowledgeable would answer your question. But at least German Albatros fighters were painted with spray. In a question about the green and mauve pattern, the great expert Dan San Abbot said in his reply

Quote:
DSA
3. The Albatros Werke used spray guns with pressurized covered pots, Defilbis spray gun system.
The majority of WWI airplanes seem to have been painted by hand, I think the use of spray guns used by the Germans must have been dictated by the necessity of economizing in paint due to shortages caused by the blockade, but that's just my theory.

Regarding national markings ... from another thread in the Aerodrome, the German crosses were painted by hand using stencils.
Romani is offline  
Old 22 March 2007, 01:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
Observer
 
Jurgen Fliegler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Greece mostly
Posts: 33
 
Thanx for your replies!

My question did not refer to a specific aircraft type. It has to do with WW1 model painting (in general), so any information is useful.
In large scale (1/32) the use of brush or airbrush really makes a difference, so I am trying to find out which is the proper way for this job. So far I use brushes for both camouflage and national markings and I wanted to know whether this is a good choice or not. In conclusion, it is - with the exception of German fighters other than Fokkers. (Am I close?)

Thanx for your replies!
Jurgen Fliegler is offline  
Old 22 March 2007, 12:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Rest in Peace
 
Dan_San_Abbott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Ceres, California
Posts: 9,119
 

My Gallery
hand painting aircraft.

Jurgen Fliegler:
Albatros and OAW used spray guns to paint their aircraft.
All Albatros Class C and D types had sprayed camouflage finishes. Where colors joined, the colors were diffused blending into one another, no hard lines. DFW, LVG, LFG Roland, Hanover, Halberstadt and Pfalz used spray guns. If you see a hard line on color joins signifies hand painting, SPAD XIIIc1 for example. Where colors were merged equals spray painting. Spray painting is faster and with one coat you can get coverage. Time is money!!
Blue skies,
Dan-San
Dan_San_Abbott is offline  
Old 23 March 2007, 01:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
Observer
 
Jurgen Fliegler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Greece mostly
Posts: 33
 
Thank you sir.
Does this apply on national insignia also from these manufacturers?
Jurgen Fliegler is offline  
Old 23 March 2007, 11:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
Rest in Peace
 
Dan_San_Abbott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Ceres, California
Posts: 9,119
 

My Gallery
National insignia.

Jurgen Fliegler:
I have seen movies of the Iron Cross being painted on a Alb.D.III upper wing. A template was used to outline the cross in pencil and was then painted by hand. The black cross first and then the white border. Also I have seen a Pfalz D.VIII fuselage balken cross being hand painted, sam as Albatros, the black cross first and then the white border. I can only assume other manufacturers did the same thing. They did NOT have masking tape in WW1.
Blue skies,
Dan-San
Dan_San_Abbott is offline  
Old 23 March 2007, 12:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
Forum Ace
 
Sreiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Serbia
Posts: 2,314
 

My Gallery
Quote:
They did NOT have masking tape in WW1
That's what I want to know long time ago
__________________
Srecko Bradic
Owner: www.Letletlet-warplanes.com
Owner: www.Letletlet-warplanes.com/forum
Owner: www.sreckobradic.com
Email: srecko.warplane@gmail.com
Skype: sreckobradic
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/pages/LetLet...s/308234397758
Sreiko is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
aircraft, camouflage and markings



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lozenge in paint bobs_buckles Models 1 24 November 2006 07:39 AM
Where did the paint come from? Epee Camouflage and Markings 9 10 January 2006 10:53 AM
paint help! flagman Models 6 30 December 2004 10:52 PM
paint question Phil 2001 6 10 December 2001 11:54 AM
RB2/3D Paint Schemes Vince 1999 4 16 August 1999 08:27 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.5.1 PL1
Copyright ©1997 - 2012 The Aerodrome