Linen color for Voss F.I?

davecww1 · 19 January 2008, 06:29 PM

Hi Taz,
I remember reading a post about the window on the upper wing - some kind of serial# on the spar if I recall correctly... any idea what would the correct color be for this? I'm thinking gloss black to represent the clear window and dark inside, or should it be a wood color?
Well let me know what you think!
Thanks,
Dave

Taz · 19 January 2008, 06:47 PM

Dave- On the D.VII the frame was cast aluminum, on the F.I/Dr.I it looks more like wood to me. Here is the best photo I have. Either way, it was probably painted olive green. Inside was a ZAK stamp and the date of inspection in pencil or grease pen covered by clear plexi or something similar like windscreen material.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Dr.I 198 17 WN 1916 Jasta 14 Ltn Werner Newly Delivered Ur.II Rear Transparency Detail.jpg

davecww1 · 19 January 2008, 06:53 PM

Thanks Taz. Looks darker than the surrounding wing, so I'm gonna go with the gloss black to represent light reflecting off of the clear panel & something darker underneath!
Dave

Tim West · 19 January 2008, 09:46 PM

This is what it might look like. Based on the one from DvII .. I think. You cant see it but I penciled in some dates and my signature is there too.

I might redo the frame now that I have seen the photo Terry posted.

davecww1 · 20 January 2008, 07:37 AM

Thanks tim, I think the wood color looks good, I'll do wood in the box and a few drops of clear gloss to finish it off. In 1/48 scale there is no actual frame on the model, I'll have to paint it in by hand using the Fokker olive.
Dave

davecww1 · 20 January 2008, 07:55 AM

All right, paint is finished and now on to decals & details... On all of the photos I have seen of FI 103/17 there is no weight table on the fuselage side. A decal is provided for this, should it go in the spares box?
also on photo #30 in the OTF article, there are 2 white (or another color) marks behind the cowl on the forward fuselage - a small circle and what looks like a rectangle. Anyone know what these are? patches, or some kind of dataplate maybe?
Thanks,
Dave

Tim West · 20 January 2008, 08:41 AM

Good morning Dave,

No problem. People here have helped me a lot so I am glad to do the same when I can

Hah, This is funny......I am at the same point in my new texture maps for 103. I am not sure about the weight table either......I am just now getting to that. One thing I have noticed about the FIs is that the stencils go through a dramatic change over the course of service. On 103, they are barely visible in some later photos , so it is likely that we just cant see the table. The markings on the unders appear to have held up ok. These machines I dont think were finished with the idea that they would be in service that long. Hence the fading and crazy weathering when compared to other fokkers. Again that could be contributed to the light colored linen and more transparency in the streaking.

I think the patches are repairs. Probably white, in one photo they are way bright. There is another photo of 103, a 3/4 from the rear which appear to show the same thing on the rudder and tail plane. You can almost trace connecting lines to the blotches...as if they where bullet holes. Thats probably far fetched but you never know. With that particular photo its hard to tell if those blotches are on the plane...or....in the print. A lot of times you can change the lighting values in photoshop back and forth quickly and most print artifacts flicker, making them easier to pick out. The ones in the photo dont flicker.

Terry or some one else probably knows better.

Laserlloyd · 20 January 2008, 09:28 AM

Here is one of the photo showing the white areas.

There is no weight table on the on the F.I's, as you said they should go in the spares box.

The area of round and rectangle white shapes are in the area of the plywood covering and would not be a fabric patch. To me they are access covers that are screwed in to the plywood. The edges are vary crisp to me that indicate a hard solid edge laying on top of the surface.

Taz and Greg would know more on this one but I'm guessing that they are access covers.

Lloyd...

Taz · 20 January 2008, 11:03 AM

Dave, Tim, Lloyd- I think they are small paintings of some sort with lettering on them based on the best photos I have seen. If it was WW-II I might have said it had Voss', Timm's and Rueser's names on them, but actually have no clue. You can actually see lines of print on the larger white pennant or whatever it is.

Taz
Terry Phillips

Tim West · 20 January 2008, 12:07 PM

Yeh, what ever it is, it is brushed. I cant make out any text but there is something that gives some texture to the insides of the blotches.

The other photo of the blotches, has the appearance of a un-uniform edge...like it was painted. Guess they could be anything.

Lol, there you go Dave.....make them what ever you want