Hannover CL.III: unit, colors, crew

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Naja:
I had not seen any of your most learned comments for the last few days, so I had thought you were banished again. Well, I can still hope. Maybe the next time, will be forever. I can't understand why you keep coming back, you have not shared one item of information with the Forum. Apparently, you have gained little from it, so why bother.
When is your book going to be finished? I have been waiting a long time to see what you can add to our collective knowledge, if any, most likely, very little.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Originally Posted by Dan_San_Abbott

Naja:
I had not seen any of your most learned comments for the last few days, so I had thought you were banished again. Well, I can still hope. Maybe the next time, will be forever...
Blue skies,
Dan-San

Dan-San,

yes, I understand. In the meantime I have learned to live with banishment here - I accept it as an award.

Tell us something about black Hannoveraner and Halberstädter with 4 color Flugzeugstoff and Schlachtstaffeln like Lozenge manufactures, #60

Schlasta 21 changed its markings after the intricate stripes to a less complex one. You have not realized that and ordered this marking to a wrong Schlasta in the "Schlachtflieger" book.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by naja

I have learned to live with banishment here - I accept it as an award.

Gazetted 21 June 2008

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Manfred, Naja, hildburg, acer or whatever:Based on what I have seen, read, that you have accomplished, which is nothing, therefore your opinion is worthless.
If you had bothered to read the Allied intelligence reports you will find Hannovers were not painted black. They were in fact painted the colors in the printed fabric.
Blue whatever, Dan-San

[Germanophile-1]

Originally Posted by Dan_San_Abbott

George Grasse:
I don't think you have seen our book, Schlachtflieger! It is well worth the $79.95 price. It covers also the Hannovers Cl aircraft as well as all the aircraft and colors used by the Schusta and Schlasta. It also has the history of each unit, personnel and battle participation. It involved thirty years of research and took six years in writing, 400 pages and weighs in about five pounds. Schiffer is the publisher.
Blue skies,
Dan-San

George,

This volume, as noted in the review in the Winter 2006 issue of Over the Front (p. 381), a portion of which appears below, "contains more information than any book on the subject in German or English."

Peter Kilduff
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Schlachtflieger! Germany and the Origins of Air/Ground Support 1916-1918 by Rick Duiven and Dan-San Abbott, Schiffer Military History, Altglen, PA, 2006; 400 pp., 11¼” x 8¾”, hardcover, illustrated with black & white photos, line drawings and color plates, appendices, references, name index; ISBN 0-7643-2441-1; $79.95.

Schlachtflieger! Germany and the Origins of Air/Ground Support 1916-1918 is a much-needed book on the largely unrecognized and little-studied aircrews, aircraft and operations of the German two-seater Schutzstaffeln [protection squadrons] and Schlachtstaffeln [battle squadrons] in World War I. This volume contains more information than any book on the subject in German or English.

It is enhanced by co-author Abbott’s general arrangement drawings of various aircraft used by the Schustas and Schlastas, as well as a large full-color section of profiles showing markings and camouflage schemes of a wide variety of low-level two-seaters used by various units.

The text is well organized and explains all aspects of Schusta/Schlasta operations, all obviously based on extensive research into original German archival material, and augmented by lively and interesting personal experiences. Most Schusta/Schlasta aircrews were enlisted men (vs. Flieger-Abteilungen with enlisted pilots and officer observer/gunners). This reviewer knows from long and sad experience how difficult it is to obtain first names of German enlisted men who served in World War I air units and is, therefore, very impressed by the large volume of complete names gathered by Duiven and Abbott for this book.

[Piotr]

Gentlemen

Pieces from Hannover CL are displayed in Royal Canadian Regiment Museum in WOLSELEY BARRACKS, Ontario Canada.

There is hard to tell, from each part of the Hannoveraner these parts belong but one (with Hava logo and HW number) looks like near tail skid fuselage part - The colors are : Dark greyish blue greyish violet greyish green and khaki yellow.

Maybe colleagues from Canada make better photos of this pieces to us

BTW: I say (and all my pictures) - that underside of the Hannoveraners II-IIIa are don't painted in hexagons!
On all my photos, underside is in natural lacquered plywood (copal lacquer or shellac?).
What do you think?
Please show me picture with hexagons painted on underside Hannoveraners!

Piotr

[Piotr]

Hallo...

I'm talking about Hannover CL II/III/IIa fuselage underside paint...
There was no hexagons!
Extract from my photos I sent to Mr. Dan-San...

Piotr

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Piotr:
Thank you for the information, I wish I had known that before I did the drawings for Schlachtflieger!
Blue skies,
Dan-San

[Piotr]

Dan-San,

I won't help you but you didn't!
I'm not a clairvoyant!
To make help must known something more, not only word Schlachtflieger!

I hope next time...

Cheers!
Piotr