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22 October 2008, 08:42 AM
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This would not have been a unit insignia but a personal insignia. One of J11's Dr.I's had one and I have seen some on other planes but I don't know which Jasta.
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22 October 2008, 08:55 AM
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22 October 2008, 09:05 AM
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Many thanks for the replies. In this instance, it would definitely have to be a unit marking of some kind as I have photos showing multiple planes bearing the same insignia. So, Jasta 23 appears to be the likely choice?
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22 October 2008, 09:08 AM
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Thanks, just shows how much I still need to learn...  Lloyd...
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22 October 2008, 09:41 AM
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Lloyd, we are all only students in this wide field ...
Rick, I am only aware of this specific unit mentioned by Mosen but I am not knowing all unit markings of all German Jasta in all periods of time. If your airplanes look like 1917-Albatros then I think we have the right unit but if you see Fokker D.VII (1918) ...hm ... then we have a problem ...
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22 October 2008, 08:58 PM
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Yes, Jagdstaffel 23 used a unit marking of a black swastika on the fuselages of its Albatros D.II aircraft - before it became a Bavarian unit. According to Alex Imrie, "This was one of the earliest examples of a Jagdstaffel unit marking, and was attributed to the fact that the Staffelführer (Hauptmann Backhaus) had previously served in a Kampfgeschwader."
There was at least one Kampfgeschwader that used a swastika as a unit marking, and if I looked hard enough I could find more than one Flieger-Abteilung that also used a swastika. For example, Flieger-Abteilung (A) 208 used a white swastika on the fuselages of many of the unit's two-seaters. It was a very popular marking, in various forms. Greg
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23 October 2008, 02:48 PM
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A white swastika was also used by one of the Flieger-Abteilungen or Feldflieger-Abteilungen on their Rumpler C.IV-VII, AEG J.I, and even a captured Breguet XIV in their unit. I don't have the details with me right now, but was just looking at the photos of the unit last night.
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23 October 2008, 03:52 PM
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Cigogne,
That was Fl. Abt. (A) 208 you're describing. There are photos in UTD of their Hannover, LVG C.V,AEG J.I 220/17, Rumpler C.IV and a DFW C.V - all of which bore a white swastika. Oddly, some of the aircraft were marked with a different unit marking, a vertical black/white band - the Breguet 14 was one of those. Greg
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