Stropp Albatros DV

[iart7]

Other than the letters "STROPP" being too small (a relic of the 3D model that won't allow them to be placed under the cockpit), are the colors of the wing camo very far off? I can almost hear, "the mauve is too dark", right? Here is the discussion about the mauve-green pattern: HERE



(see larger here)

Where can I find a decent image of the Garuda logo? and how about the letters "RF" as mentioned on the model website WWI-MODELS?

Thanks,

Art

[JFM]

Here's one:



PM me your email address and I'll send you a larger file (psd and TIFF) without the black background.

[Mode One]

I'm sure I'm going to appear foolish here (So what else is new?). However, the Stropp DVa was covered in lozinge fabric by the Smithsonian restorers as this was the type fabric the airplane had on it from way back. Is this camo an earlier covering and if so why would the airplane have been recovered in lozinge? I'd almost think the airplane came form the factory with the lozinge fabric. Something tells me I'm going to hear some history.

Wonderful art work iart7!!

[iart7]

Thanks, JFM!!!!!!!

That size logo is very much well enough for my purposes (for the propeller label). Also, Mode One: the (lozenge) wings that appear on the NASM museum plane is not correct. From what I recall reading here, the wings in the museum piece are from a different plane. Also, notice the wing crosses? Aren't they different from the fuse cross? Check the information in the link above... or here.

Thanks again, amigos!!!

Art

[Gregvan]

Hi,

iart7 is correct, Mode One, as far as I can tell. It's my belief that the fuselage and tail of "Stropp" do not match the wings that were with the airplane when it arrived at the Smithsonian, in pretty bad condition. The aircraft was, IMHO, cobbled together with wings from at least two (perhaps three) different Albatros D.Va's - probably before the machine ever left France. The location of the Iron Crosses on the upper wing identify that component as having come from an O.A.W.-built D.Va, while the fuselage and tail are obviously Albatros (Johannisthal) built. The Balkenkreuz insignia on the lower wings that were with the airframe do not match those on the upper wing, and some of the wing components were covered in five-color printed fabric while others were painted in green and mauve, etc. When Bob Mikesh and the Smithsonian restored the aircraft, they (incorrectly, IMHO) chose to cover the wings with lozenge fabric because it looked "better", I guess.

Analysis of fabric samples from the original tailplane show that beneath the yellow and dark green stripes, the original fabric was painted in mauve and green above and pale blue below. This comes from analysis of fabric samples supplied by Frank Garove to Alan D. Toelle (who did the analysis). Therefore, I believe that all the fabric-covered surfaces were probably in green/mauve and pale blue painted finish when this machine left the factory.

[Mode One]

I have the Mikesh book also. It's been a long time since I've read it and its' binding is pretty much falling apart (the binding wasn't good to start with). I know that Mr. Mikesh felt the history of this airplane was sketchy; They didn't know who the pilot was; or much of its' history. There are photos of this A.C. hanging from a ceiling somewhere in San Francisco back when, and others of it that clearly show it with lozinge pattern fabric. I suspect your opinions on how the wing changes occured, is correct. It may be likely the original wings got damaged at the time the A.C. got shot down; or, at some point in transport.

Thanks for this information! I think the airplane looks better with the lozinge, also. However, I would vote for closer to the truth.

[StephenLawson]

Also the spinner and wheel covers were yellow when captured, not green. As has been mentioned earlier is was a D.Va.

[Gregvan]

Hi Stephen,

Quote: "Also the spinner and wheel covers were yellow when captured, not green".

What is your source for that info?

Just wondering....

Greg

[iart7]

Thanks Stephen,
Thanks Greg,

I'll be watching this thread closely. I appreciate your input.

Art

[iart7]

Here is the "Y" version, if it is correct. I'll let you guys decide:





To see larger sizes, go Here and Here.

Art