Fokker Dr.1 Von Raben

[DOL]

Hi,
I have a problem with the colors of this plane. Sometimes, on some drawings or models, the bottom of the wings and the bottom of the fuselage is pale blue. Sometimes, the bottom of the wings is pale blue, but the bottom of the fuselage is red and white (as the colors of the rest of the plane). And sometimes, the bottom of the wings is red and the bottom of the fuselage red and white.
What do you think ?
Thank you and sorry if my english is not perfect...
Dol

[Malaula]

Hello DOL,
I would recommend you go to the Art section of the Aerodrome Forum and go to Dan San Abbott's gallery for an excellent color rendition of von Raben's Fokker Dr.I, 479/17. Should answer your questions. Keep in mind this depicts this Fokker triplane at one particular time and place. The markings changed during the course of the war. Hope this helps.

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[PeeJay333]

I found a red and white DRI belonging to August Raben in Dan San Abbott's section of the Art Gallery, but the aircraft depicted is 581/17.

There is also a red and white DRI in the painting by Dan San Abbott entitled "Which One?" which features August Raben.

There is a color profile of DRI 479/17 by JFM, attributed to Ltn August Raben in mid 1918, similarly colored in red and white.

I'm not sure whether August Raben is the "von-Raben" that is the subject of this inquiry.

PeeJay

[DOL]

Finally, I'm not sure whether Von Raben and August Raben are the same person... I suppose...
I find different serail number: 479/1, 581/17, 479/18

[Raineranton]

Hello DOL,

Jasta 18 had the following colours for identification under the leadership of August Raben:

Red (front) and white (backside) fuselage, white cowling and noses, red upper-wings, wheel-discs and struts. Normally they had a black raven (in German: Raben) on the fuselage except the Staffel-Fuehrer, who had a white one.

His Name is August Raben without von, but when you read about a von Raben in this common, so this is surely the same person. But please forget the drawing with the colour blue, it´s simply a wrong imagination of the artist.

Rainer

[Laserlloyd]

Originally Posted by DOL

Finally, I'm not sure whether Von Raben and August Raben are the same person... I suppose...
I find different serail number: 479/1, 581/17, 479/18

Yes, Ltn. August Raben are all the same person.

Raban flow both Fokker Dr.I 479/17 and 581/17. Both these planes where transferred from Jasta 15.

While flying 479/17 on 20Mar18 Ltn.d.R. August Raben crashes on take off at Bruille airfield. He breaks his arm and sent to the hospital at Marle.

581/17 was captured by the French (later repainted FR 5 colors) and survived the war. What happen after that we don't know.

Your 479/1 and 497/18 listing is 479/17. The Dr.I's all had the "/17" designation.

Lloyd...

[DOL]

Originally Posted by Raineranton

Hello DOL,


Red (front) and white (backside) fuselage, white cowling and noses, red upper-wings, wheel-discs and struts. Normally they had a black raven (in German: Raben) on the fuselage except the Staffel-Fuehrer, who had a white one.

Rainer

Sorry, but I'm not sure to understand. Are only the upperwings red. And what about the other ones ? Are the top and the bottom of the wings of the same color ?
Thanks

[Raineranton]

Hello DOL,

sorry, I´ve red your quetion not exactly.

But please forget the drawing with the colour blue, it´s simply a wrong imagination of the artist.

This is according to a colour profile which is in "Fokker Dr. I in action- Aircraft No. 98" where the whole fuselage of Rabens Fokker Dr. I was shown in blue and white colour.

To your quetion of the colour of Rabens Fokker Dr. I: the upper sides of all wings were red and (I think) the bottom side of all wings were pale blue.

Rainer

[DOL]

So, big game: What is the good camouflage? 1,2 or 3 ?

[Dan_San_Abbott]

Gentlemen:
Both of August Raben"s Fok.DR.I were painted red and white including their undersurfaces.
Blue Skies,
Dan-San