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Old 22 March 2010, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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60 Squadron RAF Se.5a Markings?

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I'm really keen to make my Wingnut Wings Se.5a in the markings of NZ'r Keith Caldwell. It seems he flew B534 in June 1917, which seems likely to have been Hispano-engined (??).

Can anyone advise me please on what sort of markings an Se.5a would have carried with 60Sqn around this time?

I know (unless there is a photo somewhere of B534!) that my model's markings will be slightly spurious, but any info will be better than none!

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Old 22 March 2010, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Ian,

according to SE5a in action/squadron/signal publication Aircraft No. 69 No. 60 Squadron had the following marking before March 1918:

a stylized letter and a white circle on the fuselage.

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Old 23 March 2010, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Rainier!, I assume...

... that the circle on top of the fuselage was applied at this time also?

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Old 24 March 2010, 02:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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... that the circle on top of the fuselage was applied at this time also?
Well, this is according to the 60 Squadron-markings on SEa's, so I think so, but I must admit that I'm not really an expert in markings of British Squadrons.

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No.60 Squadron markings.

Hi ianbw12:
The original markings on 60 Squadron S.E.5a was a white disc about the size the fuselage roundel on all four sides of the fuselage, just aft of te roundel. In front of the roundel was the pilots assigned letter. The same letter, but larger was painted on the top of the center-section.
On 22 March 1918, the assigned markings were changed. The 60 Squadron making was 2 white bands about 6' wide and about 6" apart were painted on the fuselage immediately in tailpane. A flight used A to F painted in frontof the fuselage cockade. B Flight used G, H, J, K, L, and M painted on the side of the nose. C Flight used U, V, W, X, Y and Z painted in front of the fuselage cockade like A Flight. No wing markings were used or flight colors on th wheels.
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Old 24 March 2010, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks Dan and Rainier...

...for the replies. Dan, as I'm modelling an aircraft from mid-late 1917, I'll use the four white circles and I believe a number for B Flight at this time, 1 for flight leader.

Have been unable to find any photos of 60 Sqn Se.5a's though.

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Have been unable to find any photos of 60 Sqn Se.5a's though.
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Hello Ian,

there are two pictures of SE5/5a's of 60 Squadron in SE5a vs Albatros D.V by Jon Guttman, which I've received today.

The one is from SE5 A.8918 with letter "W" on the fuelage and in the middle of the upper wing of 2nd Lt. H.T Hammond brought down on 14. September 1917 and the other one is from SE5a B507 with letter "A" on the fuselage and in the middle of the upper wing of 2nd Lt. J.J. Fitzgerald forced to land on 05 October 1917. On both aircrafts there are no additional numbers on the wings seen.


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Old 27 March 2010, 12:36 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks again!...

...I assume the last aircraft is the one Roden have the markings for in their kit? Is the serial number in white on the photo you have, please?

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Is the serial number in white on the photo you have, please?
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B507? - Yes, it is in white!

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